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03 December 2007

Short Talk:

I just came back from the most fruitful trip to Singapore. The Singapore Writers Festival was a blast. I pretty much went through my two sessions speaking whatever comes naturally whilst nursing a bad hangover.

Special thanks goes out to Ming & co for giving me the VVIP treatment during my time there.


Hamsters Are Not Halal

Over my birthday weekend, I invited a few of my close friends to spend the night at the spectacular Santubong Suites.

When morning came, we headed out to the resort hotel next door to have our breakfast.

Just for fun, we brought along our pet hamsters with us.

Now I know from watching Ratatouille that rodents are normally not welcome at restaurants. But I guess it should be fine since there wasn't much people around at the restaurant. Besides, the hamsters are all well-secured inside the cage.

We figured if the restaurant decides to make a fuss, we'll just cooperate with them.

Not surprisingly, within minutes of us stepping into the restaurant, the manager approached us.

Manager: Hi, I'm the manager here. I'm sorry, but you cannot bring your hamsters into the restaurant. You'll have to leave them outside, sir.
Kenny: Hmmm... I wouldn't want some kids outside to play with them and take them away. It think it should be fine lah. We have them in the cage. They won't run out.
Manager: I'm really sorry, but we operate as a halal restaurant. You cannot bring hamsters in here.
Kenny: Oh... ok loh.

Anyway, we cooperated with the restaurant and left the hamsters outside at the hotel reception. It was only until afterwards that something struck me as a little bit odd...

SINCE WHEN ARE HAMSTERS CONSIDERED NON HALAL?

I could understand if I brought in a dog with some char siew pau strapped around it into a halal restaurant and get chased away by the manager. But hamsters?

Just because there's "ham" in the word "hamsters" doesn't mean they are mini porks.

Maybe they just think I'm a pig.

That's why I'm also not halal.


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311 Comments:

lol wtf!

Posted by: datin siti at 03 December 2007 10:49 PM | Link to comment

Hamster is the other white meat???
muahahah.

Posted by: vinchng at 03 December 2007 10:51 PM | Link to comment

Probably halal also have something to do with hygiene? As I've consult a Muslim friend before, he was saying that Muslims aren't allowed to eat pork because the meat itself is not clean.. Hmmmm...

Posted by: DanDan at 03 December 2007 10:51 PM | Link to comment

Wow your hamster is really cute!

Posted by: Virgil at 03 December 2007 10:51 PM | Link to comment

I know why. Hamster-------> Ham + is + There

Ham is There = Non- Halal

Wuahahahaha

Posted by: Firefly [TypeKey Profile Page] at 03 December 2007 10:55 PM | Link to comment

agreed with dandan...maybe the halal means clean leh...

Posted by: sue at 03 December 2007 10:56 PM | Link to comment

LOL! poor Hamster. Maybe they don't want animals around. Meow!

Posted by: Meow at 03 December 2007 10:58 PM | Link to comment

Oh my Gosh! HA HA HA

Posted by: Alistair at 03 December 2007 11:00 PM | Link to comment

I found this from Google:

Question:
Saya amat berminat untuk membuka kedai binatang peliharaan yang halal (ayam,arnab,ikan air tawar)dan tidak halal dimakan (kucing,hamster,kura-kura dll). Masalah saya kali ini adalah bolehkah saya makan hasil daripada jualan haiwan perliharaan tersebut.Bolehkah pihak tuan bagi pendapat tentang masalah tersebut. Terima kasih.

Answer:
Memelihara dan menjual binatang yang halal dimakan dan halal dijual adalah harus dengan syarat adakan pasangan masing-masing.

Manakala memelihara binatang peliharaan yang tidak halal dimakan seperti kucing adalah diharuskan sebagaimana mengikut sunnah Rasulullah SAW.
Sebaliknya menjual hamster, kura-kura, labi-labi dan seumpamanya adalah haram kerana binatang itu dihukumkan bangkai..

Source: http://baheis.islam.gov.my/web/musykil_new.nsf/5bf3fb7251836f9a482567f20004d104/24d041f6bd5be26e0025729f00072707?OpenDocument

Posted by: Bel at 03 December 2007 11:07 PM | Link to comment

i'm curious too.. y is it not halal?

Posted by: suzu at 03 December 2007 11:08 PM | Link to comment

Kenny, I think you are the funniest guy ever. =)

Posted by: Li San at 03 December 2007 11:21 PM | Link to comment

ROTFLOL. So does that mean my accidently tarnish my muslim friends, cause they have hand held my hamster before. Oh noes~... Ive sin. >.

Posted by: Kevin at 03 December 2007 11:22 PM | Link to comment

Correction: So does that mean I have accidently tarnish my muslim friends*

Posted by: Kevin at 03 December 2007 11:25 PM | Link to comment

LoL.. That Manager Rox man ! He needs some guidance to differentiate Halal and Non-Halal :D

Posted by: Jayden at 03 December 2007 11:25 PM | Link to comment

Really? I have a muslim friend that owns a few hamster. Hmm... i wonder.

Posted by: Frank at 03 December 2007 11:30 PM | Link to comment

Shock and surprise Kenny.As a Malaysian Muslim I must say that I was offended by your latest posting. Born in Sri Aman Sarawak my parent always remind me of not mocking other religions or race.Why? "Because we are Sarawakian." I was dumbfounded then Kenny but now I understand why they said that. Studying and living in West Malaysia made me understand how big the gap of race tolerance there compared to Sarawak and Sabah. I must say that eventhough Malaysia not as advance or faultless as Singapore,like it or not,we must love our country first and foremost.
Malaysian Chinese regardless of their religion do have their own do and don't.I am not denying the fact that are some non-Chinese including Bumiputera do not understand the rationale behind certain beliefs but it normal to have certain segment of group who are ignorance of race and religion tolerance.
You used to be my favourite blogger because I thought all the while that you don't have any agenda against any race or religion in Malaysia. Now I know your stand Kenny. As a responsible blogger sometimes certain thing like pig should not be taken as a joke because any comment from your blog will certainly influence other too.
I don't know what are you trying to prove Kenny but the Santubong hamster posting, for me you have sent a message that are stupid Muslim in Santubong Suites which you cannot accept because he or she is a Muslim and futhermore to add your dissapointment the restaurant is halal which you hated the most because halal word always link to Islam.
I know you are trying to be funny Kenny but please don't show your true colour to the public as it will encourage more people to vent their anger or hate certain individual because of their religious beliefs.
I know you will come up with 1,000 excuse or reason after reading my comment but honestly Kenny how do you sleep at night knowing that you have literally made fun of Islam and Sarawak muslim as a whole. Forgive my English Kenny because I a Muslim and for your Muslim is stupid.
Ardyla Hamdan
Proud to be Sarawakian

Posted by: Ardyla Hamdan at 03 December 2007 11:34 PM | Link to comment

this posting is not-at-all offensive... take it easy , dude..

Posted by: daniel at 03 December 2007 11:41 PM | Link to comment

seriously, i dun find any part of kenny's post is offensive at all..

Posted by: boon-niac at 03 December 2007 11:49 PM | Link to comment

oh my... I as a muslim never heard of hamster as non-halal in touching. I supposed pig are non-halal, as in eating and touching them.

But hamster, I'm not sure if I can eat them, but touching them i am sure it is fine.

Posted by: ms at 03 December 2007 11:51 PM | Link to comment

Hamdan, you are simple way....too.... sensitive to the posting... I couldn't see any discrimination or un-tolerance by kenny... Its not sooo big deal...zd

Posted by: LOL at 03 December 2007 11:54 PM | Link to comment

Wow! Ok, I definitely didn't find the entry offensive. And er, Ardyla, I don't think there was any mention of the race of the manager. Oh and lastly, as a Singaporean, Singapore is DEFINITELY not without faults and flaws....

Posted by: Jo Frets at 03 December 2007 11:56 PM | Link to comment

Lol!
Some people think they can get away from anything because 'it's religion'.

Posted by: ava at 03 December 2007 11:56 PM | Link to comment

Ardyla Hamdan,

Da whole blog was about a hamster n a manager, and u made a statement tat u r stupid?...I wonder why u like people to thik that about u? Actually u r one big Genious~

Dinosour

Posted by: DINOSOUR at 03 December 2007 11:59 PM | Link to comment

erm seriously, why bring the hamsters into the restaurant in the first place? -_-'' then none of this would happen. duh

Posted by: Soul at 04 December 2007 12:07 AM | Link to comment

I don't think you ought to bring your hamsters in the restaurant in the first place - no pets allowed!

Posted by: Anyone like Kitaro? at 04 December 2007 12:12 AM | Link to comment

Halal = Clean = Clean + dress + food = Good Health

Posted by: ApaiSaloi at 04 December 2007 12:12 AM | Link to comment

Kenny is confuse so he try to tell us about it.. and it's up to us to correct it :-p .. but i dont think kenny is a mean guy :-) .. Proud to be Malaysian and Sarawakian.. and a muslim too .. :-p "APAISALOI"

Posted by: ApaiSaloi at 04 December 2007 12:19 AM | Link to comment

Hhahahahaha....LOL...Its funny. Anyway Muslim or not its just a joke, take it easy man. No one insulted anything so u skip the whole essay thing.

HAM-STERS.. i never notice that. Good one Kenny.

Posted by: richietkl at 04 December 2007 12:31 AM | Link to comment

ur hamster really very cute wei. =)

Posted by: joiz3 at 04 December 2007 12:31 AM | Link to comment

Hamdan,

I think you are too sensitive...Kenny just confuse why hamster is non-halal. As a Muslim you should explain to the non-Muslim why hamster is non-halal. Don't just blame people.

Anyway, i learn smth today from kenny.....

Posted by: cyc at 04 December 2007 12:32 AM | Link to comment

Yea, I'm inclined to agree too that Kenny's post wasn't offensive at all, and neither did it poke fun at any race/religion.

Ardyla Hamdan, relax! Did you see Kenny posting anything about him hating muslims? No. Hating Islam? No. Hating Halal food? No! He was just curious and possibly expressing disbelief that Hamsters are considered Non-halal.

Perhaps the manager took advantage of the fact that Kenny was probably a non-muslim and just came up with a convenient excuse? But then again, would any muslim friends here be kind enough to clarify on this matter?

Posted by: Boleh! at 04 December 2007 12:33 AM | Link to comment

Kenny,

Can you give me the contacts of the mentioned hotel? The restaurant manager needs some education. People like these are the ones that give a bad vibe to the beautiful religion. These people don't realize the harm they are doing by simply using the term halal and cause misconception.

There are two concepts of halal we first need to understand. Halal for consumption and halal (permissible) to touch. Point, that hamsters are non-halal for consumption. So are cats, rats, snakes, bats, turtles, eagles, among other things. But there's no problem keeping, petting, heck, even fondling the mentioned animals.

Slightly different for dogs and pigs. They're both haram (forbidden) for consumption and to touch. But then again, in my opinion it's not a sin to touch a pig/dog (correct me if I'm wrong my dear fellow Muslims, I'm nothing but a humble student of the Deen). Proof? Muslims can use hunting dogs, and that was mentioned in a hadith. It's just that when one touched a pig/dog, we need to clean our hands in a certain way, which can be quite cumbersome. Which is the reason why most Muslims run away from these two animals (oh we love running away, don't we?). A wrong reason I must say.

I will accept the manager's action if he says the hamster can get smelly and dirty. But to use halal in this instance, is simply out of context.

So please send me his contacts so I may correct his error. You know where to write where I will definitely read. No plug-ins intended.

Posted by: Azman at 04 December 2007 12:38 AM | Link to comment

I guess Hamdan learn some UMNO style since he study at West Malaysia too long.

Quote- "You tak suka, You keluar"

UMNO - "You touch Islam, you die"

Remember Hamdan, You are Sarawakian....

Posted by: cyc at 04 December 2007 12:39 AM | Link to comment

Azman, pigs and dogs are not haram to touch, we just have to samak later.

I agree with your other points wholeheartedly though.

Posted by: aman23 at 04 December 2007 12:43 AM | Link to comment

kenny.if you are in S'pore,i guarantee you also be kick out from the restaurant,even in the open air foodcourt are not allowed to bring your pets. for, halal=hygience.it's common sense,pets are not allowed in restaurant premises.

Posted by: BorneoMan at 04 December 2007 12:48 AM | Link to comment

hamdan,
ppl are confused about the hamster issue. no one saying anything about muslim stupid. why you so sensitive one ?

and we all still sleeping peacefully after commenting on all this.

Posted by: wingcross at 04 December 2007 12:53 AM | Link to comment

ardyla,

u are just way too easy to be offended. that's all.

Posted by: dave at 04 December 2007 1:14 AM | Link to comment

hamdan,

the blog is about hamster being label non halal, no mentioned of any other things you delusioned.
you got some hatred problem, go get help...

kenny,

halal or non halal, i wouldnt want some pets in the restaurant that i am eating... your hamster or birdie might be cute, but i am not sure whether they are clean...

Posted by: kanasai at 04 December 2007 1:15 AM | Link to comment

xxx

Posted by: xxx at 04 December 2007 1:17 AM | Link to comment

I am non a muslim. I think this blog is merely for entertainment. But I also think there should be some limitation to jokes especially related to races and religion. Certain jokes can be nothing to us, but to the party concern it could be quite sensitive. Lets change position, and you know what I mean. And it is not a polite thing to tell people to get loss if they don't like it as this is not the Malaysian way. The Manager who told you that the hamster in non-halal.. maybe he just wanted to make things easier as he expect you to understand and do not make a fuss about it. I think they must have experience alot of difficulties especially handling customers, and probably to cut it short, this will be his best answer. Unless he really don't know about halal and haram. Perhaps he should just tell you that pets and animals are not allow in this restauraunt. As per hamster is halal or not, we have lots of Muslims rearing hamsters over here. As such, I am sure it is halal to rear and keep as pets. Lastly, I pity the Manager as he didn't know who he is talking to, and his mistake ended up in the most viewed blog at kennysia.com . I just wonder what will happen to him if his boss happens to be a blog reader and is a pain in the ass type.

Posted by: Sri Kebakat at 04 December 2007 1:18 AM | Link to comment

Azman and aman23.i respect boths of you,i can show you,some muslims in my hometown sarawak keeping dogs as pets.

Posted by: BorneoMan at 04 December 2007 1:25 AM | Link to comment

all these stuff are so funny.. especially Hamdan touching on religious issues. Haha.. LMAO..

For animals that have fangs, are considered as non-halal. They can keep them as pet, but not for consumption. that's all.. o.O

Posted by: haha at 04 December 2007 1:25 AM | Link to comment

Maybe coz Hamdan's name has Ham in it..
So he might feel..
perturbed or something..

Posted by: iggy at 04 December 2007 1:32 AM | Link to comment

Take it easy, man! Its just a joke posting.

Though, I remember my Muslim friend used to tell me that you are allowed to touch Dogs IF your hands are dry for that the "dirty" stuff will kena your wet hand and stick on it.

Posted by: 739 at 04 December 2007 2:08 AM | Link to comment

omg i think there's a BIG misunderstanding..

Question:
Saya amat berminat untuk membuka kedai binatang peliharaan yang halal (ayam,arnab,ikan air tawar)dan tidak halal dimakan (kucing,hamster,kura-kura dll). Masalah saya kali ini adalah bolehkah saya makan hasil daripada jualan haiwan perliharaan tersebut.Bolehkah pihak tuan bagi pendapat tentang masalah tersebut. Terima kasih.

Answer:
Memelihara dan menjual binatang yang halal dimakan dan halal dijual adalah harus dengan syarat adakan pasangan masing-masing.

Manakala memelihara binatang peliharaan yang tidak halal dimakan seperti kucing adalah diharuskan sebagaimana mengikut sunnah Rasulullah SAW.
Sebaliknya menjual hamster, kura-kura, labi-labi dan seumpamanya adalah haram kerana binatang itu dihukumkan bangkai..

Comment:
THE ANSWER DOESNT EVEN ANSWER THE Q!!!!that person is asking whether he/she can EAT from THE MONEY GAINED from SELLING animals muslims cant eat!!!he/she wants to open a PET STORE!! while the answer thot the person WANTS TO EAT WHAT HE/SHE IS SELLING!!!
(Muslims cant eat pets as we already love that animals and is considered friends to human so WE CANT EAT THEM out of kesian..MEANING if we keep a chicken as a pet and give love and care n gv name n treat is like a cat, WE CANT EAT THAT PARTICULAR CHICKEN..and we cant eat kura2 as it lives in 2worlds...like frogs.)

As for the hamster....that person is a real dumb ass.hamster is not non-halal.we just cant eat them as its a pet.i hv 20hamsters as pet so hahah seriously that person must really thot its a ham-ster so its non-halal.sheesh.some ppl just gv their religion a bad name.

Posted by: suraya at 04 December 2007 2:09 AM | Link to comment

Bringing a pet to a restaurant??!!
If I were the manager, I'll kick your ass instead.
It's way too unhygienic. ewww......

Posted by: xxyy at 04 December 2007 2:30 AM | Link to comment

LOL cute hamster ! X3

By the way heres my point of view.

It doesn't matter whether hamsters are halal or not. It was just a quick excuse that the manager used to make you get that hamster out.

What matters is the fact that you tried to bring a hamster into a restaurant ? Dude, what if they shed their furs into other people's food ? It would totally ruin the restaurant's reputation.

Hey kenny a word of caution, don't piss off any religion mindlessly even if you're joking. Especially Islam. It could very easily be misunderstood as an attack against their religion. Just like that teddy bear case. (Gillian Gibbons)

Imagine if the reason you got JIHADED was because you questioned the fact that a cute furry little hamster was halal.

"EXECUTE KENNY, HAMSTER IS NOT HALAL HE INSULTED OUR GOD'S LAW !!"

It could happen. o.o

Posted by: Nicevil at 04 December 2007 2:38 AM | Link to comment

Well, this is of course not a direct insult to Muslims.
However, seeing how pets are not allowed into restaurant premisses, its not surprising one could easily interpret this as an insult to the Muslim religion, since you somehow made a very big fuss about the fact that the manager said,' we operate as a halal restaurant. You cannot bring hamsters in here.'

I'm just curious wheter you were more surprised that the manager said the hamster was non-halal or the fact that pets aren't allowed into a restaurant in Malaysia.

I'm not Muslim but I feel like you had crossed the line. This is just my opinion though, I'm sure most people just think this is suppose to be funny.

Posted by: Joey at 04 December 2007 3:11 AM | Link to comment

This is just a blog for goodness sake...it is about the hamster being not allowed in a food chain/restaurant for health and safety reasons and nothing about islam/religion has been tapped into in the content...have a good day all kennys blog readers...i for one enjoyed every piece of article he posted and i stumble and found his blog site by chance in october and i have enjoyed his blog...keep up your dry sence of humour ,kenny...love you

Posted by: meow2 at 04 December 2007 4:52 AM | Link to comment

Kenny shouldn't have brought the hamster... and what's there to be offended about this post.. I don't get it ... There's nothing offensive.. Stop being so sensitive.. kenny's just implying that he is fat.. ahaha

Posted by: keith at 04 December 2007 5:07 AM | Link to comment

Seriously... what's wrong with this post. Muslims are such extremists. The joke is on hamster being halal or not. Not about Islam.

I'm seriously feeling that most muslims are terrorist already. Any irrelevant associations with Muslims whether good or bad, they just wanna strap bombs on themselves and kill innocent lives so they can go to heaven.

I seriuosly wonder what's in their brain.

Posted by: WTFnoob at 04 December 2007 5:16 AM | Link to comment

obviously hamsters are HALAL! wtf betul.

i guess the manager was talking about hygiene. haha!

Posted by: pinksterz at 04 December 2007 5:41 AM | Link to comment

i think that's a pretty darn silly excuse. i would understand if the manager told me that "no pets are allowed". if it were a "non-halal" issue, so what about us, chinese people (generally speaking)? we are definitely not halal either. lol.

Posted by: lynn.wabbit at 04 December 2007 6:11 AM | Link to comment

The only offensive thing that I found in Kenny's blog --> he tried to bring a hamster into a restaurant!!!
So inconsiderate and ignorant, won't you say?

Posted by: cleanfreak at 04 December 2007 6:14 AM | Link to comment

Ardyla,

Apahal dengan kau tok? Kau sakit ka?
Kau sik sekolah ka? Sapa yang cari kelai, kau ka Kenny?

Baca balit post iya betul2. Cerita dalam post iya langsung sik ada kena mengena dengan komen kau.

Posted by: mac at 04 December 2007 6:56 AM | Link to comment

I see a flame war coming!

Posted by: Seizhin at 04 December 2007 7:08 AM | Link to comment

haha.... an entertaining post will become offensive if u try to MAKE the post offensive.
Funny.... HAHA

Posted by: choongkeat at 04 December 2007 7:10 AM | Link to comment

Hehe, put the religious thig aside, Kenny u sure love ur hamham that much hor, u u u bring them for a trips hor...hehe...

Chubby Chin

Posted by: CHUBBY CHIN at 04 December 2007 7:28 AM | Link to comment

Ardyla Hamdan,

HUH!??!? Explain to me please how exactly I made fun of or insulted Muslims?

THE RESTAURANT MANAGER IS A CHINESE!

Kenny Sia
Proud to be Sarawakian

Posted by: kennysia [TypeKey Profile Page] at 04 December 2007 7:33 AM | Link to comment

Just clarifying as a Singaporean. Allowing pets in restaurants, even on beaches is a current debate. Most don't want dogs eating in restaurants. Fair reason since hygiene is critical. As for letting dogs loose on beaches, a 3 year old got attacked recently. So it's safety issues. But other reason being respect for other religions like Muslims who share public spaces. I think it's more for the sake of being considerate to others regardless ur race/religion. Don't think just you are dog/hamster lover that others are as well. One man's meat(or pork in the case for HAMdan), is another man's poison.

Personally, I like Kenny's hamster. Just not on my plate or near it... :P

Posted by: Jo Frets at 04 December 2007 7:34 AM | Link to comment

everything is not halal anymore ..

Posted by: fairygodmother at 04 December 2007 7:44 AM | Link to comment

awww.. Kenny.. your hammy so cute! But don't la bring animals to restaurants.

Posted by: jc at 04 December 2007 7:48 AM | Link to comment

Let's recap what the post mentioned:

1. Pet Hamster
2. Manager not allowing the hamster to be brought in, the restaurant is non-halal
3. Kenny wonders why hamster is non halal, is it because of the word 'ham'?

Which part of this a an insult to anyone or any religion?

Try not to make things up in your head, maybe you will be happier that way

Posted by: DarkAeon at 04 December 2007 7:51 AM | Link to comment

Hi Kenny, maybe they thought your hamster is a guinea pig! (which is technically a rodent too, not a pig). Hence, not halal. cheers, coldspring

Posted by: coldspring at 04 December 2007 8:09 AM | Link to comment

Then Tekka in Little India is also considered ter kah?? Man...

Posted by: The Horny Bitch at 04 December 2007 8:30 AM | Link to comment

come on..orang Sarawak..sikkan dah kena influence by melayu org semenanjung? sidaknya sensitive..ko yg padah dolok...we are Sarawakian...we are better than them..apalah...ko sik nangga the big picture...

nasib kenny org sarawak..mun nya org semenanjung,....kali udah dibuang negeri!

Posted by: Shekinah Jane at 04 December 2007 8:31 AM | Link to comment

sometimes it's juz dam screwed up.. i was playing cards with my friends in long john silvers (singapore) then the manager came up and say "sorry u cant play cards here, this is a halal outlet"

?!!!
seems like they dont even understand the meaning themselves

Posted by: ahboy at 04 December 2007 8:32 AM | Link to comment

It is not easy to get Halal certification and it is understandable for the manager to be extra cautious to maintain and protect the the Halal certification. If the restaurant is to lose the Halal standard, Kenny's hamster will not be the culprit and the manager himself. His job, his family's income will be affected. Can't blame the manager for being extra cautious or even paranoia but Kenny, you being a well travelled person, should learn not to bring any pet to the restuarant.

Posted by: Quest [TypeKey Profile Page] at 04 December 2007 8:33 AM | Link to comment

For hygiene and other diner comfortability purposes, i think pets should not be allowed in the restaurant. I hardly see restaurant that allow pets even in Europe, US and Canada. Some restaurant actually place a sign saying no pets is allowed within the restaurant premises.

Anyhow, your hamster is so cute. But still don't think it is appropriate to have him/her in the restaurant :-p

Posted by: tz at 04 December 2007 8:38 AM | Link to comment

Not only Kenny is confuse, but the manager too. I wish I know what exactly transpired during that time. But I must believe that the manager doesnt want to offend Kenny and believing Kenny wouldnt really understand what is Halal or Non-Halal. He must have created such "ultimate" excuse for him to leave the hamster behind believing it so that Kenny will accept such kind of excuse as it will offend any muslim's customer who is sitting inside the restaurant.

Be cool guys. I understand what Kenny want to say here, but then Kenny please do not mock about something which you are not really understand. The word Halal in islam is very very sensitive. Not matter what you think or your perception on this issue, but please be mindful, you are playing with the religious issues here.

I wish to reiterate that hamster is Not-Halal as food intake for muslim. But considering the rules of Islamic jurisprudence that accepted in Malaysia, it permits the muslim to touch it and no where to be found that says its forbid muslim to touch it.

Perhaps, the manager need to explain more about it, but maybe, just maybe he does'nt want to offend Kenny (bringing in his loving hamster) he trying to pull off some "halal" issue in this matter so that Kenny would think that such excuse to be ultimately accepted although not knowing the actual islamic principle behind it.

But I must say, Kenny had agreed with the manager not to bring his hamster in, and that's good enough for being tolerance. As such, I dont think this hamster's issue is big issue and neither Kenny's entry is some sort of mocking other religious belief. But seriously Kenny, the public had signaled to you that this is your borderline of putting up your stance on religious matter. So next time, be more careful..

Posted by: hermzz at 04 December 2007 8:43 AM | Link to comment

lol...i think u guys shud give hamdan a break...he probably misunderstood the post and thought kenny had a diff motive in his post...its allright, everybody makes mistakes when reading, sometimes get over sensitive when it comes to religion...
now that u mention the manager is chinese, he was quite noob not knowing facts before saying it out...

Posted by: simplefreak at 04 December 2007 8:46 AM | Link to comment

it really get me thinking what is the clear line of SENSITIVITY? a harmless post to me could be an insult to certain persons.

anyway, i am glad that some muslim friends speak out n explain the meaning of Halal to us. i hope that despite of blaming n cursing, we could have a platform to know each other better, n Kenny's comment space should be the platform instead of a place of war.

proud to be malaysian cum sarawakian!

Posted by: owllow at 04 December 2007 8:51 AM | Link to comment

Guinea Pigs aren't Pigs either hahahha...

Posted by: Angela at 04 December 2007 8:55 AM | Link to comment

agree with owllow above....i actually learnt sth through the comments! there's actually stuff like halal to consume and halal to touch....never knew...

Posted by: bjk at 04 December 2007 9:02 AM | Link to comment

an innocent hamster caused a religion tiff...

Posted by: evelyn at 04 December 2007 9:02 AM | Link to comment

Shall ask my sister to slaughter her hamster so it'd be halal then. Just joking.

Posted by: Salamahafifi at 04 December 2007 9:05 AM | Link to comment

I wonder what happen if you bring a pet cockroach into the restaurant?

Posted by: michelle at 04 December 2007 9:07 AM | Link to comment

Singaporean Muslim here, not at all offended -_-'''

Posted by: Salamahafifi at 04 December 2007 9:13 AM | Link to comment

There several points I want to make here that would make me sound like an old man:

a) First of all, Kenny please don't bring pets into restaurants anymore unless the restaurant is stated as pet-friendly or allows pets. It is COMMON SENSE that pets are not allowed in restaurants and other eating outlets.

b) Second, the manager needs further education in hospitality lessons. Halal / haram issues and how to answer clients properly.

c) Thirdly, to all Muslims, lighten up. Don't have to be so sensitive all the time. Please give people the benefit of the doubt. If you think others have wrong remarks about Islam, educate and explain first without taking offense. It could be just a simple problem of misunderstanding or ignorance which do not warrant such harsh response. There are more than enough examples of extremely harsh response to very simple perceived infringement on Islam e.g. the teddy bear case in Sudan, crosses, statues in mission schools etc. All these only cause Muslims to be perceived as intolerant or even barbaric.

Posted by: megaman at 04 December 2007 9:14 AM | Link to comment

Ardyla,

if M'sia contain 30% of people like u, we will be living like in Iran or Afgan...coz you are just too too too sensitive about religious...
lol..this blog has nothing to do about religious at all..."Halal" word is just a word tht link to Islam lo...or just like the other commenter's said , halal = hygiene ...

so i think your brain ain't so halal lor...think so much of dirt here ...go clean your brain and read this blog again ..really really nothing have to do with insulting any religious lo ..lol..

btw, i love the 2nd pic of the hamster is taking nap ... so fcuking cute ..roar ...

Kamehameha
proud to be East M'sia

Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 04 December 2007 9:18 AM | Link to comment

stupid manager
animal r not allowed in restaurant 4 HYGIENE factor la stupiak ..even if da animal is halal it still cant b there wat


ignorant n arrogant kennysia
can i bring my chicky in da net as well..its locked wat....tiu nia sing

highly sensitive n agressive mr hamdan
memanglah engkau ni terlalu sensitive..if av1 as sensitive as u ...wat da world gonna b kan...u gotta get a MS Universe to utter "world peace" to u every minute!

Posted by: avispek at 04 December 2007 9:34 AM | Link to comment

hamster really not halal ah? *ROFLMAO*

Posted by: ahlost at 04 December 2007 9:38 AM | Link to comment

aww ur ham ham so cute =P
just try not to bring it to breakfast in future... later run away again la...

Posted by: kenneth at 04 December 2007 9:51 AM | Link to comment

AH! your hammies are so kawwwaaaaiiii!
That means my hammies are not halal oso?

But i feed them with chicken meatlah! =P

Posted by: WeeN at 04 December 2007 9:57 AM | Link to comment

huh??hamster is not halal??first time i heard it...then can malay keep hamster as pet???

Posted by: rawpotato at 04 December 2007 10:03 AM | Link to comment

Thank You For All The Feedbacks,
Kenny said the restaurant manager is a Chinese. WOW how naive I am.......
Ardyla Hamdan

Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 04 December 2007 10:05 AM | Link to comment

Poor hamster, just hide it in your pocket next time Kenny.

Posted by: leongsoon at 04 December 2007 10:10 AM | Link to comment

To Arydla Hamdan,

hi dude, take it easy. The context of the blog is relatively harmless. Plus, the guy has loads of muslims friends back home and is a stand up good guy.

I have a muslim gf(I'm chinese btw)and she reads Kenny's blog religiously and in this particular situation she could find no fault; only laughter at the manager's actions.

So do please have an open mind and just read. Kenny has done a magnificent job so far. Do try to enjoy his work of art; trust me; the guy is pretty insightful into alot of things.

Also, bear in mind he popularize our hometown. My friend's in Canada didn't know where on earth Kuching was. And, they are keen to come over to try all the local delicacies. How good is that?

Ahhh.....all this typing has made me thirsty. Gonna cheat on Sprite today. Where's my Coke.....

Posted by: Fido Dido at 04 December 2007 10:12 AM | Link to comment

My father used to tell me stories of how he and his Sarawakian Malay friends could sit down together in a coffee shop and eat together. Whether the shop was halal or not did not matter. If it was selling mee kolok or anything with pork, the Sarawakian Malay would order something else from another stall which was halal. That is true integration. Now, with all this unnecessary sensitivity, there is much segregation among the races. When the various races cannot it down to enjoy a meal together in peace, what hope is there for integration. Religion is a personal thing. Keep it at home.

Posted by: Ah Beng at 04 December 2007 10:16 AM | Link to comment

I thought your hamster ran away or something? Nolah, I think the manager didnt really mean its not halal, just that its not hygienic to bring a hamster cage into a restaurant I guess.. He probably duno what else to say, first time got people bring hamster to his restaurant mah :)

Posted by: J.N. at 04 December 2007 10:21 AM | Link to comment

maybe hamsters r somewhat related to Guinea PIGs?

Posted by: MB at 04 December 2007 10:44 AM | Link to comment

Lest RECAP

+ hamster is HALAL to touch, but HARAM to eat.
so it ok to keep it as pet.

+ And for muslim who keep dog as pet(unless for hunting), then their only muslim by name.

+ its not SINS to touch DOG /PIG but muslim have to wash it certain ways.Both are HARAM to eat.

+ pets are not allowed in a restaurant except stated

+ the manager don't know about the term HALAL, he is just using it

++ so blame the manager, not the hamster not kenny

:)) lankapo

Posted by: Azlan A.Raof at 04 December 2007 10:44 AM | Link to comment

oversensitive ppl are insecure ppl.

Posted by: agu at 04 December 2007 10:53 AM | Link to comment

whoa
funny

Posted by: Jes Tang at 04 December 2007 11:04 AM | Link to comment

Three cheers to Lankapo. Well said bro! :D

Posted by: Azman at 04 December 2007 11:06 AM | Link to comment

After reading the post and comments here some of my conclusions..

1. The manager are totally 'STUPID'! Why on earth
he used the terms of 'HALAL' instead
of 'HYGENE ISSUE'?

2. We Sarawakians has the 95% of integration
compared to 65% in West Malaysia. So please
don't spoil it.

P/S: The percentage was given by Kementerian
Kebudayaan, Kesenian & Pelancongan. Told by
the minister himself.

3. Hamster is 'HALAL @ CAN' be touch by Muslim
but 'HARAM' to eat it!

4. FCUK THE MANAGER !!!!

Posted by: Rahman at 04 December 2007 11:08 AM | Link to comment

so kenny,

bottom line is you should never bring any animals into a restaurant whether its dogs, rodents, ruminants or babies.

fullstop

Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 04 December 2007 11:08 AM | Link to comment

aiyo..y is this turning into religion forum??

Posted by: hehehe at 04 December 2007 11:23 AM | Link to comment

i am a muslim malay from singapore and i'm slightly perturbed by the attitude of the restaurant manager.

i know hamsters r not halal to eat but i dont think its against us to keep it as pets. some people i know have hamsters as pets. some people r jus ridiculous.

n kenny, i dont think yr entries are offensive in anyway. its jus dat some people do not have an open mind on things.

Posted by: sarah at 04 December 2007 11:24 AM | Link to comment

yea, i guess the manager didn't expect Kenny to bring in a hamster into the restaurant. And not knowing what to say, he blurted out the word "halal" instead of saying something else like hygiene issues.

Posted by: ken™ at 04 December 2007 11:26 AM | Link to comment

Your hamster is cute :) I won't keep hamsters though. They're smelly.

Posted by: Kittykins at 04 December 2007 12:32 PM | Link to comment

Yesterday i brought Cheddie to an atas Chinese dimsum place in a shopping mall (that clearly says "no pets allowed" muahaha)! The restaurant manager was super xing mu. I told him she will just be in my bag. He took a look then signaled me to go in, and said, "dang wo mei kan jian ba"! :D :D :D

Posted by: Cheesie at 04 December 2007 12:33 PM | Link to comment

omg don't post pictures of your hamster already. ESPECIALLY the ones with the paws seen so clearly. it's so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: shuhui at 04 December 2007 12:55 PM | Link to comment

To Ardyla Hamdan, u are obviously making a fool of yurselves!!!! Stop this nonsense!!.. This posting is about the manager and the hamster.. READ AND UNDERSTAND!!
Being a fellow muslim, I'm a Singaporean.. take my advise to understand the posting.. What the manager meant is.. the hamster is not clean to be in the restaurant, more to hygiene.. nothing more, nothing less.. Probably, he do not know how to explain it properly to Kenny and frens..

Posted by: oya ashikin at 04 December 2007 1:12 PM | Link to comment

i think hamsters are halal to touch..but haram to eat..

but who the hell eats hamsters anyway?! lol

Posted by: xiang at 04 December 2007 1:23 PM | Link to comment

The one to blame is the restaurant manager for misused the word "halal" and not Kenny. although i'm a muslim i will definitely become confused just like Kenny when i heard what that manager said @_@

Posted by: Betazu at 04 December 2007 1:33 PM | Link to comment

Wowwww your hamster's so cute!!! Was you pressing it? it looks like hamburger

Posted by: Penny at 04 December 2007 1:37 PM | Link to comment

Arydla Hamdan, u're so narrow minded. Most of the Muslim's Sarawakian that I know is not narrow minded as you and I thank God for that. Kenny's intention not to offend anyone but just in doubt whether his cutie hamsters is halal or not halal. Rather than attacking Kenny Sia for his question (even I also wonder whether hamster is halal or not from Muslim's perspective), I think you should be just like Azman who share his knowledge what actually it's all bout & to clear all the question that inside our head.

Kenny Sia, I love your blog & just be yourself.

P/S: Your hamster really cute, adorable.

Posted by: Bia at 04 December 2007 1:39 PM | Link to comment

Hahahahaha....u shud take a picture of that manager. I really like to see his face

Posted by: edi at 04 December 2007 2:01 PM | Link to comment

aku sik sokong sapa-sapa baik kenny baik ardyla tapi aku rasa lepas tuk kenny patut pikir benar-benar mun nak molah lawak jangan kait dengan dengan pantang-larang berkaitan dengan budaya dan agama org lain.Aku nangga org manyak yokong kau kenny pasal hal tuk tapi aku rasa pelik jak.Kadang-kadang aku rasa semua komen-komen menyokong you ya macam kena suruh untuk cover u ajak?Ardyla rilek pok jgn marah-marah.......
Anti-Diskriminasi dari Kuching

Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 04 December 2007 2:14 PM | Link to comment

in actual fact, hamsters are non-halal. apparently all foods are halal except those stated in Quran as non-halal - one of those listed is are repulsive creatures such as insects, pests and rodents. since hamsters are actually rodents, they are actually non-halal...no offence to your cute hamster.

Posted by: waiyee at 04 December 2007 2:51 PM | Link to comment

Whatever happened to using "no pets allowed"?

Posted by: No Pork No Pork at 04 December 2007 2:51 PM | Link to comment

The heck with them. It's a good thing non-Muslims are spoiled with choices of meat.

Besides chickens, ducks, fishes, cows (Hindu exempted) and goats, we're also free to each pigs, parrots, sharks, cats, dogs, eagles, zebras, lions, whales, rhinos, elephants, cockroaches and hamsters.

Posted by: I ♥ meat at 04 December 2007 2:56 PM | Link to comment

pity u la,after reading this post, i researched in the internet and also asked a fren of mine whthr a hamster is non-halal..
and this is what i get:

http://halalguide.org/List_of_Non_Halal.html

1) Alcohol
Alcohol is a colorless liquid, produced by the fermentation of sugar or starch, that is the intoxicating agent in fermented drinks and is used as a solvent. Also called ethanol and ethyl alcohol.

2) Animal Shortening
Shortening is a type of fat such as lard that is solid at room temperature, and is used for making pastry.

Vegetable shortening is halal.

3) Animal Fat
May be consumed if from Halal, Zabihah, animals.

4) Bacon
Meat from the back and sides of a hog that has been salted, dried, and often smoked.

5) Broth (from animals)
A liquid made by cooking vegetables, meat, seafood, or poultry in water for a long time, used as a base for soups and sauces.

6) Enzymes (Microbial Enzymes are okay)
A protein substance produced in living cells, that influences a chemical reaction within a plant or animal without being changed itself; an organic catalyst. Enzymes help break down food so that it can be digested. Pepsin is an enzyme.

7) Ethanol
Alcohol is a colorless liquid, produced by the fermentation of sugar or starch, that is the intoxicating agent in fermented drinks and is used as a solvent. Also called ethanol and ethyl alcohol.

8 ) Ethyl Alcohol
Alcohol is a colorless liquid, produced by the fermentation of sugar or starch, that is the intoxicating agent in fermented drinks and is used as a solvent. Also called ethanol and ethyl alcohol.

9) Gelatin
An odorless, tasteless, protein substance like glue or jelly, obtained by boiling the bones, hoofs, and other waste parts of animals. It dissolves easily in hot water and is used in making jellied salads and desserts, camera film, and glue.

10) Gin
A strong colorless alcoholic drink distilled from grain and flavored with juniper berries.

11) Ham
Meat cut from the thigh of the hind leg of a hog after curing by salting or smoking.

12) L-cysteine (if from human hair)
L-cysteine is an ingredient which is used in bakery products as a dough conditioner. It is often used in pizza crusts, pita breads and in bagels. It is made from human hair, chicken/duck feathers and synthetic materials. L-cysteine from human hair is Haram and must always be avoided. Synthetic and chicken/duck feather L-cysteine is Halal and may be consumed.

13) Lard
The fat of pigs or hogs, melted down and made clear. Lard is made especially of the internal fat of the abdomen and is used in cooking.

14) Lipase (Only animal lipase should be avoided)
An enzyme produced by the liver, pancreas, or stomach, or by plant seeds, that breaks down fats.

Animal lipase should be avoided.

15) Pepsin
An enzyme in the gastric juice of the stomach that helps to digest meat, eggs, cheese, and other proteins.

16) Rennet - All forms should be avoided except for plant/microbial/synthetic.
Substance containing rennin, obtained from the stomach of a calf or other ruminant, used for curdling milk in making cheese and junket.

17) Rum
An alcoholic liquor made from sugar cane or molasses. It can be clear but is usually colored brownish-red by storage in oak casks or by the addition of caramel.

18) Stock (from animals)
A liquid made by simmering meat, fish, bones, or vegetables with herbs in water, used in soups, stews, and sauces.

19) Wine
Alcohol fermented from grapes: an alcoholic drink made by fermenting the juice of grapes.

Alcohol fermented from other fruit: an alcoholic drink made by fermenting the juice of fruit other than grapes, or the juice of other plants.

20) Tallow
A hard fatty substance extracted from the fat of sheep and cattle.

21) Vanilla Extract/Flavour
A flavouring extract made from the vanilla bean and used in candy, ice cream, and perfumes.

The flavour extracted from vanilla beans is most commonly dissolved in alcohol. Documentation from a distributor of vanilla extract showed that the ingredient contained 50% alcohol.

22) Whey (Should be avoided unless the rennet used in its production is plant / microbial / synthetic.)
The watery part of milk that separates from the curd when milk sours and becomes coagulated, or when cheese is made.
Rennet is used to curd the milk. Whey should be avoided because the rennet used to curd the milk could be from a haram or non-Zabihah animal.

Posted by: Guna at 04 December 2007 3:14 PM | Link to comment

wat a lame excuse to keep pet away..means thsoe malay who has the hamster berdosa now if the hamster are now non halal

Posted by: elaine at 04 December 2007 4:14 PM | Link to comment

Its funny that everytime any word related to Muslim pops up.. there sure to be some ass (keldai) coming in and screaming that their religion was mocked at. If your religion teaches you to be so sensitive and always going into war with others.. than the religion you believe in is a religion of the Devil as only the devil advocates killing so that more may join the Devil in his land of fire. I believe Islam dont teach you that right.. ? Or am I wrong?

Posted by: jd at 04 December 2007 4:14 PM | Link to comment

Oh.. and if my comment is also sensitive.. feel free to delete. What a sensitive world it is now.. how to acheive Merdeka if all Malaysians are like such.

Posted by: jd at 04 December 2007 4:19 PM | Link to comment

I think what kenny is talking about is the indiscriminate use of religion and the lack of study in the religion of the person. Not Islam itself cos he was not talking about the rules, just the person who doesnt seem clear of the rules.

Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 04 December 2007 4:41 PM | Link to comment

ack of study in the religion BY the person. i meant.

Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 04 December 2007 4:47 PM | Link to comment

bringing animal/pet inside any restaurant, be it inside cage or not is unhygienic. Has got nothing to do with halal or not. Common sense..

Quoting "Just for fun, we brought along our pet hamsters with us" already hinted that youre expecting some trouble.

As for the knee jerk reactions. I've no comment. Naming a teddybear also almost kena hang in Sudan. Just be careful there dude. Dont want to loose my favorite (sometimes lame) blogger.

Posted by: famil at 04 December 2007 4:49 PM | Link to comment

the point Kenny here is, DO HAMSTER IS NON-Halal?
okeyh. Hamster is halal to kept as pet but it is haram to eat.

and the manager btw, i think he doesnt know how to reply you. aiyohh.

apalah kitak orang tok. mun bena2 islam jawab lah bebait+tolerance. Nabi xda molah kedak ya eyh. jangan medo jak kawan keyh. kita ada akal sama2 tuhan merik.

Posted by: Syuxx at 04 December 2007 4:56 PM | Link to comment

What a whole load of bullcrap on the manager's part.

Posted by: Lea S at 04 December 2007 5:02 PM | Link to comment

3 things -

1. i guess the manager tersasul/ter-opps and said halal because he was nabes (nervous) to see kenny sia the celebrity blogger?

2. hamdan,kau emo pahal? ur comment kedak org berhujah dalam parlimen jak.u're the one trying to create an anti-muslim atmosphere here,not kenny...

3. last but not least,kesian kenny sik bersalah.leave him alone!!!

c'mon now people...stop hating each other!

Posted by: jollymolly at 04 December 2007 5:21 PM | Link to comment

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

Lest RECAP

+ hamster is HALAL to touch, but HARAM to eat.
so it ok to keep it as pet.

+ And for muslim who keep dog as pet(unless for hunting), then their only muslim by name.

+ its not SINS to touch DOG /PIG but muslim have to wash it certain ways.Both are HARAM to eat.

+ pets are not allowed in a restaurant except stated

+ the manager don't know about the term HALAL, he is just using it

++ so blame the manager, not the hamster not kenny

:)) lankapo

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

Hi Azlan/lankapo,

Referring to your point No.2 and No.3...

Why are Muslims who keep dogs as pets only considered Muslims-by-name? You said it's not a sin to touch them and you just have to clean them accordingly. So,no sin, what's the problem here?

Looking forward to your explanation so that we all would understand Islam a lil' better.

Posted by: Et. at 04 December 2007 5:31 PM | Link to comment

From what I see, Fact being Kenny Sia did not actually argue back to the manager shows his respect towards this whole matter.

Whatever proceeds afterwards, I suppose, is just for entertainment. Well, and I've to say I'm indeed amused by this.

So yeah, chill dudes.

Posted by: Lim Zi Ai at 04 December 2007 5:43 PM | Link to comment

Kenny,

You had just revealed how below IQ you are. Did you find out why the hamster was not allowed in? Or you had made your own conclusion?

I had blogged about your entry here.

Posted by: En Arip at 04 December 2007 5:54 PM | Link to comment

or isit because they cannot tell the different between a hamster and a guinea PIG

Posted by: gal at 04 December 2007 6:24 PM | Link to comment

What's the big deal with the posts blasting Kenny? Not like he's making a scene at the restaurant after the manager said that. Get a life, haters, just because its halal-non halal thing he's blogging about here doesn't touch anything about religions. Dumb sensitive asses.

Posted by: Acey at 04 December 2007 6:32 PM | Link to comment

En Arip,

What you have mentioned did reveal your level of IQ as well, of course personally I've expected and paying respect to this level. A "reasonable" man wouldn't take kenny's statement seriously, if you're having some poor eye sight, we wouldn't blame you. in order to prove this, allow me clarify something for you, kenny did mention that

Quote
"Maybe they just think I'm a pig.

That's why I'm also not halal."

Did you take it seriously? If not please, read and have some laughter off, instead of treating it seriously.

And btw, I don't laugh at other's for how stupid they are, though I can LMAO on you as loud as possible, but I'm trying to be kind here, since I have high tolerance on your stupidity, have a nice day :)

Oh sorry kenny, used up lot's of space here, hope this explanation is useful for particular guest here.

Posted by: annoynymous at 04 December 2007 6:32 PM | Link to comment

oh my God, what a stupid manager! for him to easily labels something as halal and haram. who is he? a syaria member? i mean, come ON! it's not like you were going to eat your own PET hamster, which is obviously not of the swine species. kofkoff. what i think he was trying to tell you is that hamsters are unhygienic, since they belong to the rodent species, and rodents aren't exactly what you want to see next to your plate of french fries.

the term haram cannot be generalized as everything inedible. there are specific guidelines which defines one as halal or haram. if,IF anyone would ever consider eating a hamster, it could be considered as haram to muslims because rodents, as we know it, eat parts of their excretion back, thus, unhygenic.

but yeah, i'd say before you consider stir-frying your comot/comel/ahmeng, maybe you should pencil in a psychiatric appointment too :D

Posted by: LaiLy at 04 December 2007 6:37 PM | Link to comment

and for me to menyebok again, to touch a dog or a pig is not haram laa sengal! which kitab did you read that from?? even a sahabat Nabi was known as to pet a dog in the history before. as long as the fur is dry, and you don't touch the saliva or any mucous membrane of the animal, you don't even have to samak (a process where you cleanse the body part which comes in contact with the animal) yourself. so if you want to pet it, nuzzle it, go ahead, but pandai-pandai laa make sure. if you're was-was (doubtful), go ahead and samak.

and who are you to call others "Islam pada nama/kad pengenalan"? stop with the fitnah, and please, oh please, stop with the stupidity.

Posted by: LaiLy at 04 December 2007 6:48 PM | Link to comment

When I read the comments over here, I just have to laugh. Reading the comments seems to be so entertaining.

By the way, I don't get the fuss what's so sensitive. I think it's the mindset.

Posted by: danielctw at 04 December 2007 6:51 PM | Link to comment

Actually, the manager is a "she", not a "he".

Aiyo. I blogged about a restaurant manager of a halal restaurant and automatically people assumed that its a male Muslim. She's a Chinese female auntie lah.

Please don't flame the restaurant manager. She did nothing wrong.

Posted by: kennysia [TypeKey Profile Page] at 04 December 2007 6:52 PM | Link to comment

Seriously... what's wrong with this post. Muslims are such extremists. The joke is on hamster being halal or not. Not about Islam.

I'm seriously feeling that most muslims are terrorist already. Any irrelevant associations with Muslims whether good or bad, they just wanna strap bombs on themselves and kill innocent lives so they can go to heaven.

I seriuosly wonder what's in their brain.

Posted by: WTFnoob at 04 December 2007 5:16 AM | Link to comment


Thats gone WAY too far. Too. Far.

Posted by: soph at 04 December 2007 6:59 PM | Link to comment

HEY WHY AM I NOT WELCOME IN NON-HALAL RESTAURANT?

Posted by: pork at 04 December 2007 7:10 PM | Link to comment

I love Muhammad

Posted by: bankimoon at 04 December 2007 7:38 PM | Link to comment

Its funny that everytime any word related to Muslim pops up.. there sure to be some ass (keldai) coming in and screaming that their religion was mocked at. If your religion teaches you to be so sensitive and always going into war with others.. than the religion you believe in is a religion of the Devil as only the devil advocates killing so that more may join the Devil in his land of fire. I believe Islam dont teach you that right.. ? Or am I wrong?

Posted by: jd at 04 December

Well..Bush is oversensitive and overanalysed a bunch of terrorists as THE WHOLE OF MUSLIMS AND IRAQIS...and then he goes into war..he said its a calling from his god....so then Bush is under the religion of the Devil then jd?? yehhh if im thinking like yu..then def lahh..i always thot hes a devout catholic...

come onnn jd..

I'm seriously feeling that most muslims are terrorist already. Any irrelevant associations with Muslims whether good or bad, they just wanna strap bombs on themselves and kill innocent lives so they can go to heaven.

I seriuosly wonder what's in their brain.

Posted by: WTFnoob at 04 December 2007 5:16

ohh dun get me started.hv u ever put urself in their positions??the suicide bomber?im not advocating them but desperate situation calls fr desperate measure.and ISLAM absolutely FORBIDS suicide and killing innocent ppl!! we'll straight away go to hell.i dun think its out of islam they do it.its more lk theyre desperate and its in their culture to sacrifice stupidly as they think it's holy plus they dun really hv good education. u dun see Muslims in singaporeor msia or indon bombing themselves.bcos its not in THEIR CULTURE!!!ppl should really separate religion and culture.dun generalise ppl.

Islam is all about toleration. I'm sure all religions are.Some ppl are just making religion excuses as they think its easier.Pls dun insult ur own God. I dun think any religion thot its followers to think stupidly.

Im a muslim.I keep hamsters. And kenny..wth were u thinking bringing hamsters??aiyo u aa..

Posted by: orange at 04 December 2007 8:14 PM | Link to comment

HAMDAN,
I'm no fan of kenny but i do read his posts now and then .. some funny some not..but this time I think its you who give Islam a bad name by your over-sensitivity.

Posted by: tina at 04 December 2007 8:24 PM | Link to comment

this is ridiculous.
religion has controlled the world in this disturbing way.

Posted by: comment at 04 December 2007 8:26 PM | Link to comment

god that was such a weak joke.

boy some of you people have your panties in a bunch.

Posted by: skim at 04 December 2007 8:34 PM | Link to comment

Kenny, naive and narrow-minded readers are just not worth keeping. I can see how hard they are trying to make things difficult for you.

All those who are level-headed should know where you are coming from.

Happy Blogging!

Posted by: Caydensmommy at 04 December 2007 8:37 PM | Link to comment

Malaysian Muslim. Not offended.
Don't worry Kenny, this happens all the time. Like another commenter mentioned, the restaurant owner is just taking advantage of the fact that you wouldn't understand the halal/non-halal fully and that the hamster could leave the restaurant with minimum fuss.

Posted by: Jafri at 04 December 2007 8:38 PM | Link to comment

ur hamster is really cute! it looks like it has face expressions..hehe i.e. in the secomd hamster pic it looks like its grinning away =D

Posted by: Amy_gurl at 04 December 2007 8:56 PM | Link to comment

What the restaurant operator meant is not about hamster being halal or not but really about the criteria for a restaurant to be granted a 'halal restaurant' status... kenny, if ur ignorant, better not joke about it but get ur facts right instead... halal is not just about pork or dogs..if u can't bring live animals into the restaurant, just follow the rules lah, is that so difficult???

Posted by: Anon at 04 December 2007 8:57 PM | Link to comment

kenny's blog entry are becoming lamer and lamer... u got no more ideas ah kenny?? even small small things also wanna complain or comment...

Posted by: lamekenny at 04 December 2007 8:59 PM | Link to comment

Kenny, it's a HOTEL. dude, unless u r a billionaire n can easily tip that manager a few hundred bucks to shut his mouth.. well, i dun think hamsters r hygenic for a restaurant lo.. it might spoil the reputation of the restaurant as well. i know it's just a joke here, but at least u educated some kids not to. a, take care

Posted by: Ripp87 at 04 December 2007 9:12 PM | Link to comment

He must be creating non sense excuse then. He should have just say no animals in the shop and that's the rule. What non halal, halal...weird..
Your hamster very cute la. Then it stay in hotel room la?? Hmm..the smell....

p/s: Thanks for your talk that day. I enjoyed it a lot!! It's great!! :D

Posted by: Christine at 04 December 2007 9:32 PM | Link to comment

what the hell wrong with the manager?
was the hamster running on the food of other customers or in danger of being cooked and served?
hahaha

Posted by: Fist of Asia at 04 December 2007 9:58 PM | Link to comment

next time i wanna bring my dog, cat, fish and whatever animals i can find into the restaurant!!! oh yea, my pets are really cuteeeeeeee too but why can't i bring them in??? :( oh yea... COMMON SENSE tells me that i'm not allowed to!!

so what made smarty pants bring the hamsters into the restaurant? if he hadn't, this post wouldn't be here and everyone would stop b*tching around.

Posted by: a bay bay at 04 December 2007 10:05 PM | Link to comment

wth post harmless entry lidat pun kena cakap racial.

eh i noe y the manager did dat.cuz ur hamster cute gile macam babi ;D

hahah :pp

Posted by: vonblue at 04 December 2007 10:11 PM | Link to comment

Gosh! another >100-hit reply entry...because of religion/politic related post AGAIN!!


p/s: wops! It's related to hamster this time!

Posted by: chow chow at 04 December 2007 10:13 PM | Link to comment

just a note.... i realise there's a stereotype going on here. the non-malays eg malay or eurasion seems to be equated to being non-muslim and the malays r muslim. darlings, race n religion r 2 seperate things. U may be a chinese and u can still be a muslim. chinese is my race. islam, my religion.

And with regards to the replies to this post, its like a piece of elastic stretched to enormous proportions(think balloons) Its mindless... kenny's post is harmless la. dont get ur knickers in a twist u muslims. :)

Posted by: tal at 04 December 2007 10:51 PM | Link to comment

at a moment,i taught u wanted to put the HAM-ster into the burger to makan.guess i was wrong in the end

Posted by: taboo at 04 December 2007 11:11 PM | Link to comment

Lol... I think there are assuming your hamster as a guineaPIG.. Muahaha....

Posted by: curryegg at 04 December 2007 11:14 PM | Link to comment

don't know how the taste of hamster BBQ... yummy!

Posted by: Steven Goh at 04 December 2007 11:19 PM | Link to comment

sigh. it always happens...when we talk about muslim, they feel offended.. so we just shut up and dun say anything about them then we can have a peaceful day de ok?

Posted by: miu at 04 December 2007 11:41 PM | Link to comment

since when did kenny said he thinks Muslim's are stupid? since when?? 'siapa makan cili diala rasa pedas'.

Posted by: usergirl89 at 04 December 2007 11:54 PM | Link to comment

lamekenny, if u think this blog getting lamer, don't visit. small things like that also u wanna complain/ comment. no one forced u to read this site anyway. it's not ur blog -.-

Posted by: usergirl89 at 04 December 2007 11:57 PM | Link to comment

why do some muslims hate non-muslims so much? i'm not referring this to all muslims because not all are like that. i know some who are very rational when it comes to this issue but some people are just way too extreme for their own good.

http://news.my.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1129216

Posted by: topman at 05 December 2007 12:14 AM | Link to comment

the manager should say... animal are not allow to bring in the restaurant , will cause others customer feel uncomfortable, and less hygience .....
the manager luan luan say

Posted by: haha at 05 December 2007 12:23 AM | Link to comment

halal=clean

Posted by: ~dza~ at 05 December 2007 1:22 AM | Link to comment

@ ahboy

maybe the manager said playing cards in the restaurant is not halal because he thought u guys were gambling? and gambling is prohibited.

Posted by: Chicken With Name at 05 December 2007 2:31 AM | Link to comment

I want to molotov Santubong resort!

Posted by: The Angry Mob at 05 December 2007 6:22 AM | Link to comment

At the age of 24, you ought to have known better dude. You dont bring any pets into restaurants - be it small, large, halal or non-halal. There should be no exceptions.

It's being called "considerate" to other patrons - empty restaurant or not. For you to expect the hotel to bend backwards for you - and then bitch when they don't - now that is selfish and inconsiderate of you.

Posted by: busternuck [TypeKey Profile Page] at 05 December 2007 8:22 AM | Link to comment

Halal and haram is not just about avoiding pigs and slaughtering birds and quadrapeds. To be halal, food must also be clean in terms of its preparation and presentation.
Bringing an animal into a restauarnt where food is displayed openly, buffet-style, may compromise hygiene.
That was what the Manager was getting at. If you bring your pet to the dining table, cage or no cage, even I would tick you off.
Duh, Kenny. DUH!

Posted by: stickler4details at 05 December 2007 8:25 AM | Link to comment

Ha, since we at this, I have a question to ask: is it prohibited to order a drink from a chinese restaurant?

i) order drinks prepared in the restaurant with their own glass?
ii) order can drinks?
iii) siting next to people who drink alcohol?
iv) using utensils from non-halal establishment? Like my house?
iv) cakes baked with utensils from non-halal house?

Appreciate if someone can answer this. Very curious. I get varying answer for this BUT I get the same reaction from friends/family friends around me: they don't come visit you at your house anymore. Period.

Posted by: Hee at 05 December 2007 8:47 AM | Link to comment

BTW, when I was studying in the States. Friends around me have no problem at all, but here..... BIG problem. I thought the Jewish has stricter diet than the muslim, but still, it is the FOOD that they can't eat, not the utensils that we use. I have many muslim and jewish friends in the States but sadly to say, i found none in this country. Those who are friends with me are either: 1st generation of muslim convert and people who has mixed heritage.

Tell me, what i need to do in order to invite muslim friends to my house and have dinner with me? Need to be halal certified? I am pretty much vegetarian so, pork or no pork in my fridge is not an issue here but the pinggang mangkuk at home sometimes do serve pork on it. And of course, some condiments i keep at home are not halal but i know what to use and what not to use to prepare food.

Posted by: Hee at 05 December 2007 8:54 AM | Link to comment

It's funny how people like Lala Hamdan can argue over small little things. It just shows that Malaysia Boleh and Malaysians Memang Boleh Bertengkar Tak Habis Habis! What a waste of time.

Posted by: I'm a duck with no name. Quack Quack Quack! at 05 December 2007 9:13 AM | Link to comment

I found this from Google:

Question:
Saya amat berminat untuk membuka kedai binatang peliharaan yang halal (ayam,arnab,ikan air tawar)dan tidak halal dimakan (kucing,hamster,kura-kura dll). Masalah saya kali ini adalah bolehkah saya makan hasil daripada jualan haiwan perliharaan tersebut.Bolehkah pihak tuan bagi pendapat tentang masalah tersebut. Terima kasih.

Answer:
Memelihara dan menjual binatang yang halal dimakan dan halal dijual adalah harus dengan syarat adakan pasangan masing-masing.

Manakala memelihara binatang peliharaan yang tidak halal dimakan seperti kucing adalah diharuskan sebagaimana mengikut sunnah Rasulullah SAW.
Sebaliknya menjual hamster, kura-kura, labi-labi dan seumpamanya adalah haram kerana binatang itu dihukumkan bangkai..

*************************

Someone please tell those idiots at JAKIM (answer provided by a PANEL!) to read the question PROPERLY and answer them PROPERLY too!

And look at their disclaimers:

1. Jawapan kepada soalan disediakan oleh Panel Kemusykilan Agama, JAKIM
2. Setiap borang yang dihantar hendaklah mengandungi hanya satu soalan sahaja.
3. Jawapan yang diberi adalah berdasarkan Mazhab Shafie kecuali dinyatakan sebaliknya.

You would think they have considered the questions carefully....

Apparently, we can't do browsing based on this address:http://baheis.islam.gov.my/, so, no way of reaching whoever is maintaining that site.

And someone please tell Mr. Sulaiman bin Sulong (poor soul who posted the question and couldn't get his answer) that we feel his pain for having to deal with this kind of people. It makes you wonder about the qualification of those people (their BM qualification, please, people, learn to read and understand what people writes!) who are supposed to be 'experts', isnt it?

** sigh**

Posted by: Hee at 05 December 2007 9:35 AM | Link to comment

It is known to all that "NO Pet Allowed" in any restaurant irregardless of halal or non halal.

Dont press your luck kenny, please do spread the words around to boy and girl, uncle aunty, ah gong ah ma, everybody, that NO PET Allowed in restaurant. You are the living prove to tell hehehe.

Perhaps you should post more nice view from the hotel, like that, maybe next time can get FREE stay from the hotel as usual you got many free things and goodies from the sponsors...rather then creating this avoidable misunderstanding...
:)

Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 05 December 2007 9:47 AM | Link to comment

Hahaha! This is so funny! Hamsters are not HALAL! But seriously why can't you bring yr caged up hamster into the restaurant? Don't understand.... But it's a funny thought... HALAL hamsters... Hahahahaha!

Posted by: Princess Carol at 05 December 2007 9:53 AM | Link to comment

First and foremost I wish to say something to ardyla,please grow up lah brother (sister?).Secondly to Kenny Sia (Sial!!!) I hope you learnt valueable lesson from this episode. To all, this is typical "divide and rule" tactic to incite the feeling of hatred among each others.Please be rationale my brothers and sisters. Kenny I guess you are proud what you are doing now and Ohh! Kenny you can now make a quick phone call to all your friends so that they post their "I-will-support-you" comment at your blogsite just to cover up what you think a very funny "Hamster and Halal Incident". Hmmm what next Kenny Sia (Sial!!!!)?
Love Peace Not War from Limbang

Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 05 December 2007 10:05 AM | Link to comment

The almighty u believed in was known to be the mercyful and taught his servant thru the scripts to behave like one too, yet I see lots of the follower not getting the message right. Thats why today the word "Jihad" was wrongly interpreted. Left alone "Halal". Thats why the world still at wars, big or small, thru arms and words. WAKE UP TO PEACE NOW.

Posted by: bubbleGum at 05 December 2007 10:16 AM | Link to comment

Hamdan, Chill man. Don't get your knickers in a twist. Don't need to go all jihad on kenny.

HAM-ster, HAM-dan, what's the difference.

Posted by: kimberly at 05 December 2007 12:09 PM | Link to comment

dear my friend.
i am no Ustaz here, but i will try my best to explain and please respect and understand and not questioning why Islam is like this and like that.

+ ok, it's not haram to have dog in your house, but how SURE are you? that you can perform prayer and ibadah in the house.

Name: Reen
Question: Assalamualaikum, Ustaz, Why Dog is Haram as pets in Islam?, why it is so?, I just wonder how to explain when some fellow non-muslim asked me this question..what should I answer in order to give valid reason why dog haram to have?

Answer: I cannot say to you that having a dog as a pet is haram. If you have a dog, you should have a separated place for it, but not have a dog to live with you in the same room. Muslims don't have dogs as pets because of culture, more than a matter of religion. Muslims discourage having a dog as a pet, but they can use it for games, for shepherding or as guard dogs, or different other purposes. Having a dog just for fun is not recommended. Of course, if a dog licks at a bowl of food or drink, you should wash that bowl seven times with water. There are certain restrictions in having a dog, but again I say that it is not haram.
http://www.masnet.org/askimam_runsess.asp?id=253

+ FYI, JAKIM is rite, you cannot use/eat the profit from selling (haram to eat animals:snake,hamster,labi-labi,harimau,)

Posted by: lankapo at 05 December 2007 12:21 PM | Link to comment

I get slightly confused when reading Kenny's entry. But I think the blame is solely on the manager side for being an ignoramus and lacking in communication skills.

Kenny statement regarding "Maybe they just think I'm a pig.".. not that I think it is offending (he is referring to himself anyway), but were you mad, Kenny when writing this post?

Reading all these comments, God. People are just so quick to jump on each other throats on the slightest of offence. Take a moment and think before you type. (referring to all , muslims and non muslims included)

Posted by: dils at 05 December 2007 12:22 PM | Link to comment

Don't be skeptical about halal... When talking about halal is not about Pork...
Halal is another way to consume the food in Hygenic way..
When he said "this is a halal restaurant" meant they follow the rules stated in Malaysia Halal Certify restaurant.

Definition of halal
Halal is an Arabic word which means lawful or permissible by Islamic laws.

Definition of Halal in accordance to Trade Descriptions ( Use of expression "halal" ) 1975 is as follows:

When used in relation to food in any form whatsoever in the course of trade or business as or as part of, a trade description applied to the ffod, the expression "Halal" , "Di-Tanggung Halal" or "Makanan Halal" or any other expression indicating or likely to be understood as indicating that Muslims are permitted by their religion to consume such food such expression shal heve the following meaning, that is to say the food in relation to which such expression or expressions are used:

a) Neither is nor consist of or contains any part or matter of an animal that a Muslim is prohibited by Hukum Syarak to consume or that has not been slaughtered in accordance with Hukum Syarak.

b) Does not contain anything which is considered to be impure according to Hukum Syarak.

c) Has not been prepared, processed or manufactured using instrument that was not free from anything impure according to Hukum Syarak; and

d) has not in the course of preparation, processing or storage been in contact with or close proximity to any food that fails to satisfy paragraph (a) (b) or (c) or anything that is considered to be impure according to Hukum Syarak.

You can check at www.halaljakim.gov.my

If you have chicken as a pet... You bring it to there. That guy still saying it it's a halal restaurant. Keep the place hygienic and healthy is a real meaning to "halal". Does it look clean if customer keep bringing pet into those places. I believe it is appropriate things to do.

Try to understand the meaning before make a assumption. I guess this is your way showing affection to your blog reader.

Posted by: Taufik at 05 December 2007 12:54 PM |