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22 June 2006

Short Talk:

Work has been piling up on me continuously this past few days. I've been working overtime I hadn't even had time to sit down and watch the World Cup, let alone write a proper blog entry.

I'll get back into the rhythm once all this is over.


Copy & Paste Logos

Times are hard to come up with your own business logos. Remember WWE Engineering?


When I spotted this signboard here at a 24-hour food court here (Siang Siang Foodcourt in 3rd Mile), I was happy 'cos I thought Burger King has opened up a branch in Kuching.

Upon closer inspection though, I realised something didn't quite look right.

Heyyy... that's not Burger King. Since when did Burger King operate out FROM A STALL?

What the hell? It's a Ramly Burger stall lah!


:: Posted by Kenny at 6:13 AM | Link | Facebook It
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73 Comments:

Even with your tight schedule you still able to put up something like this ^^ Good Job. By the way... BurGer Times SatU!

Posted by: HaMz at 22 June 2006 6:17 AM | Link to comment

tot u go sleep just now...pigi supper pun tak ajak?? :P

Posted by: anonie at 22 June 2006 6:29 AM | Link to comment

Over here in Penang there's also a popular burger stall that calls itself the Burger King too. Only the sign is different.

Posted by: Yik Wen at 22 June 2006 6:39 AM | Link to comment

got something for you in my blog...maybe you are interesting to read it :P

Posted by: lenz at 22 June 2006 6:53 AM | Link to comment

wah.. no copyright infringement meh?

Posted by: allen at 22 June 2006 7:03 AM | Link to comment

What did they NOT understand about the little TM on the Burger King Logo? I could well understand BK suing with a 'cease and desist order', after all they have spent millions creating a brand awareness around their logo. Is this not the sort of thing that continues to connect Malaysia with copywrite infringement,Music/DVD piracy and the like? Here in New Zealand a small country store owned by a family called Harrod had the dickens legally thrashed out of them for using their family name on their storefront, by that little corner store in London owned by Mr al-Fayed. While this was taking things too far, the signage you've posted should go in my opinion.

Posted by: edt at 22 June 2006 8:15 AM | Link to comment

oops..cross posted with allen's post??...delete my first kenny...keep up the interesting local photography...regards from NZ.

Posted by: edt at 22 June 2006 8:19 AM | Link to comment

In Ipoh and Cameron Highlands there's a fried chicken franchise called KLG.

Same colour scheme and everything as KFC.

Escept that instead of Colonel Sanders, there's a depiction of a chicken.

Posted by: Skyler at 22 June 2006 8:20 AM | Link to comment

Won't they get sued for this?
Plagiarism leh.. They just change the "King" to "Times" nya.
Don't tell me they can't even figure out an unique stall name.

Posted by: Nonnie at 22 June 2006 8:23 AM | Link to comment

top 10???

Posted by: Aaron Tan at 22 June 2006 8:53 AM | Link to comment

kenny why oh why do you keep blogging about food and making me feel hungry whenever I drop by here... :P~~~~

Posted by: oink at 22 June 2006 9:01 AM | Link to comment

there a few stalls of it...i noticed it sometimes ago...

if you go Point one@Travillion you can notice the western menu got French Fried... ;)

Posted by: ah nel at 22 June 2006 9:26 AM | Link to comment

Pamly burger IS nice lah! Nicer than all those...! Try the special with baked beans wrapped in egg...other than the burger and other stuff!!! Had it in Sri Aman, roadside stall! Yummy! U can try when u go visit ur branches in these teeny-weeny places!

Posted by: suituapui at 22 June 2006 9:42 AM | Link to comment

ah.. another fast food kopikats

There's KLG in Penang also... it amazed me that they dare to plagiarize it up to the point that they open up franchise all around msia...(soon coming to your place... just u wait!!)

What would KFC do? or burgerKing?
i doubt they can do anything...can they?

Posted by: MinMin at 22 June 2006 9:55 AM | Link to comment

btw... u got me hungry again..>_
i shall blame u if i get any fatter :p
muahahahahaah
just jk

Posted by: MinMin at 22 June 2006 9:57 AM | Link to comment

Ah.. intellectual property. I think the usual phrase is 'infringement of copyright'.

I have to brush up on that but anyone who's been to a Burger King outlet will know that the dude isn't selling no burger king burgers. Who knows man?

Kenny, do they have the Whuppar? or the Junior Whuppar?

But if Burger King should find out, they could sue the guy for his profits which wouldn't be much and the guy would most likely be fined as well. Heck, the legal fees alone would be hefty considering the nature of the subject. But if they sue, it would serve as a example to all 'wanna infringe copyright' people.

All it takes is a person to complain to the right authorities really.

Posted by: Hmm.. at 22 June 2006 10:09 AM | Link to comment

Wah, possibility to get sue leh.

Posted by: Hijackqueen at 22 June 2006 10:11 AM | Link to comment

The burgers r better at Burger King! hang on, it's not burger king it's Hungry Jack's! Aiya all the same thing. I like the whopper anyway. hehehe

Maybe U should have some photos of the Ramly Burgers, I wanna know what the rave is about..

Posted by: Kelly at 22 June 2006 10:52 AM | Link to comment

Will such infringement lead to problems in Malaysia? Anyone going to sue?

Posted by: Manny Lee at 22 June 2006 11:00 AM | Link to comment

In Malaysia, an idea is no good unless it is stolen. Original ideas are no good. Why? Because they have never been tried out before. Stolen ideas are virtually always already successful ones. That's why businesses don't pay for creativity here - its too expensive and too risky.

Posted by: suertes at 22 June 2006 11:04 AM | Link to comment

Lol!!!!!!!!!!

Hahas. Well, they wanted to attract people too or no ideas. Ramly Burger's nice too right? But BK is better. =)

Posted by: Sweet Sarcasm at 22 June 2006 11:08 AM | Link to comment

interesting post ..

Posted by: ting at 22 June 2006 11:14 AM | Link to comment

Hhahaa, dun be surpise... i saw the starbucks logo at friendster cafe(damansara perdana) too... wondering if they will ever get sued !?

Posted by: cely at 22 June 2006 11:53 AM | Link to comment

aiks, sorry for ter-post so many times, my page was not loading after i click post.. so i click post again...

Posted by: cely at 22 June 2006 11:56 AM | Link to comment

boring post

Posted by: nicholas yeoh at 22 June 2006 12:48 PM | Link to comment

Nonnie, HijackQueen, MannyLee, I don't think he will be sued lah. There's a lot of other instances of copy and paste logos in Kuching. No one really bothers with it.

nicholas yeoh, boring comment.

Posted by: kennysia [TypeKey Profile Page] at 22 June 2006 1:06 PM | Link to comment

haha, perhaps should change the name to RAMLY TIMES, using the same logo shape and colours. there are indeed alot of fakes nowadays. You guys know KLG? yeah, it's KFC's fake too. the outlet and the logo and the colour are exactly like KFC, but it's called KLG. i first saw it in Taiping, my mum's hometown, even since then it has been growing. Wait i'll take a snap wheni get to taiping. Guess what, the chicken from KLG sucks.. yeeeakks

Posted by: shengwa at 22 June 2006 1:09 PM | Link to comment

There's one more burger times in King's Centre, at MEGA food court or sth, (maybe the place changed ) :D

Hahah Is burger king related to hungry jack's?

Posted by: Kuchingite27 at 22 June 2006 1:48 PM | Link to comment

eh i think he'll be sued if they found out, anyhow KLG also have a branch inside Taman Desa off Old Klang Road KL

Haven't tried before

Posted by: dcyk at 22 June 2006 2:11 PM | Link to comment

That's a lawsuit waiting to happen!!!!

Posted by: Dabido (Teflon) at 22 June 2006 2:43 PM | Link to comment

so many copycats logo nowadays.

Posted by: ivan at 22 June 2006 2:47 PM | Link to comment

burger sing or burger ring rhymes and look more similar. i bet it's also somewhere if we look hard enough.

adibas, the brand with three strikes.

Posted by: agus at 22 June 2006 2:51 PM | Link to comment

u can get sued for infrigement of copyright but u need to think of the feasibility of suing that fella. if he aint got no insurance, who cares abt suing him. he cant pay shit.

juz a threat to sue is enuf.

Posted by: naeboo~ at 22 June 2006 3:57 PM | Link to comment

KENNY!!!! you just made me miss Burger King.
:(

damn.... i was so happy for a while....

Posted by: cameron at 22 June 2006 4:01 PM | Link to comment

Kenny...have u heard about FENNYSIA.COM? lol!

Posted by: Izan at 22 June 2006 4:20 PM | Link to comment

o.O!

Posted by: rachz at 22 June 2006 4:35 PM | Link to comment

the similarity is just a coincidence...

Posted by: vidar at 22 June 2006 4:41 PM | Link to comment

coincidence my foot.
unless you're the defending lawyer, then thats what you might say...
geez...burger times...o_O

Posted by: zh at 22 June 2006 5:13 PM | Link to comment

Ugh,, burger king again. I am eating eat twice a month due to its promotion (cheap sets). hehe. The fries are made of 100% imported Australia potatos and the beef is 100% new zealand imported. Irristable. Just what the heck the fame of burger king being defamed by those nuts @ the ramli burger stalls.. swt =.="

Posted by: Wayne at 22 June 2006 5:36 PM | Link to comment

same shit here kenny...

have you ever forget that you "kap lui" for 2 hours???

have been overloaded with work lately... but thank God reading your blog doesn't taken up too much time... hahhahahah

Posted by: Aaron Tan at 22 June 2006 6:36 PM | Link to comment

if ppl likke them were to get sued, i think all courts will be functioning 24/7. Ramly burgers are best compared to BK.

long time nv eat le..

Posted by: Cheryl at 22 June 2006 6:42 PM | Link to comment

er.. is edt here?

Posted by: allen at 22 June 2006 8:00 PM | Link to comment

i hope he gets sued, man.

Posted by: shbam! at 22 June 2006 8:09 PM | Link to comment

thats Malaysia Copyrights for you

Posted by: foodcrazee at 22 June 2006 8:11 PM | Link to comment

burger times?

it sounds like a burger+newspaper stall.

Posted by: gwen at 22 June 2006 8:22 PM | Link to comment

I think he will be sued by Burger KING one fine day...just watch...

Posted by: piggygrace at 22 June 2006 8:24 PM | Link to comment

Won't that store be sued for breach of trademark? =S

Posted by: Xia-mi-mi at 22 June 2006 10:26 PM | Link to comment

isn't that plagrism? how come there are people who are daring enough to copy established companies' logos? so stupid.

Posted by: Rachel at 22 June 2006 11:22 PM | Link to comment

well, hahaha biasalah tu. There's TENpanyakki in Klang also what. And what about those bakeries: bread story, bread history, bread talk - the similitudes. plagiarism only mar. biasa aje :P

Posted by: she-bitches at 23 June 2006 12:06 AM | Link to comment

I hate xiaxue blogs!! she's so fucking inconsiderate person. who she think she is? Bitch!

Posted by: xiayu at 23 June 2006 1:30 AM | Link to comment

Kennysia
I do suggest you try eating at Azza Burger stall outside Star Cineplex. Its the best ramlyburger in Kuching so far. Ask for the 'semua ada' burger... damn shiok!!!

Posted by: thething at 23 June 2006 2:30 AM | Link to comment

hahaha...feel like one of kenny pics...adjusted for fun. If the burger is same as burger king, it will be a potential 'linked' chain business. lol

Posted by: berth [TypeKey Profile Page] at 23 June 2006 4:01 AM | Link to comment

Innovative but real copy cats.

Posted by: bayi at 23 June 2006 5:59 AM | Link to comment

Haiya, you commentors ah, get your legal terms straight. Copyright infringement of plagiarism applies to literature, music, films or other creative works.

What we have here is a case of passing off or trademark infringement. Sure Burger King can sue, but it'll be like going after a fly with a hammer. BK will lose valuable PR if it does so.

Posted by: Visitor at 23 June 2006 10:22 AM | Link to comment

Clear case of trade mark infringement (if registered) and passing off. :D

Posted by: xes at 23 June 2006 11:55 AM | Link to comment

what has happened to originality and creativity?
used to channel copycat-ness???
weird bunch.

Posted by: Indulgent Princess at 23 June 2006 2:39 PM | Link to comment

Yap, it is clearly a Trademark Infringements. when BK get inform , i'm sure this stalls keepeer get sued

Posted by: Guruh Roy at 23 June 2006 2:41 PM | Link to comment

lol that's a good one but it certainly hits people attention and wanted to have a bite at them rite. I dont think there's anything wrong with this.

Posted by: Sonikbyte at 23 June 2006 3:00 PM | Link to comment

nooooooooooo!!!!

i want Burger King!!! :(

Da swiss mushroom cheese burger :|~~~~~~~

Posted by: jess at 23 June 2006 3:37 PM | Link to comment

i am so craving for ramly burgers!

Posted by: nadnut at 23 June 2006 3:42 PM | Link to comment

Visitor - Yes, it's trademark infringement, and I doubt it'd be bad press or anything. All publicity is good publicity. :-)

It'd probably be very quick and painless actually.

Burger King sends lawyers telling the owner to change his signage or else.
Owner either changes it, or he consults his own lawyers who basically tell him to change it, as it's indefensable.

If the owner is stupid enough to take it to court he'll lose.

Newspapers will not use it as a David Vs Golliath type battle, as the owner is clearly in the wrong, as such, any press won't be for the owner of the stall. It might be a little harsh if it thinks Burger King is being a little heavy handed, but, Burger King wil easily counter act thi by saying the owner is being deceptive, and deception should not be rewarded. End of story, everyone forgets about it after a week, goes back to eatin Burgers.

Posted by: Dabido (Teflon) at 23 June 2006 3:57 PM | Link to comment

we got the same KFC sign but KLG here...sigh
maybe kids will love that..

Posted by: lunaticgal at 23 June 2006 4:46 PM | Link to comment

wah...! got reward or not is i report them?

Posted by: Jarod at 23 June 2006 4:48 PM | Link to comment

Well yeah I spotted KLG in Langkawi too! Apparently Alor Star has Starbean -_-". Kinda sad la how these small towns have to come up with copycat brands to soothe the citizens there for not having the real thing.

Posted by: Danielle at 23 June 2006 9:51 PM | Link to comment

Kenny, we have Hair Asia!
Now everyone can have a hair cut
http://www.sempoiii.com/sempoiii/page,view/catid,5/key,46/hit,1/

Posted by: alex at 23 June 2006 11:13 PM | Link to comment

If you say you seen some similar stuff,

check out this ugly eyesore in Penang

http://penang360.blogspot.com/2005/08/rm-35000000-salted-duck-egg.html#links

Posted by: LangChiaPek at 24 June 2006 12:20 AM | Link to comment

i bet the dude's from west malaysia came to kuching trying to make it big XD

Posted by: rad at 24 June 2006 9:17 AM | Link to comment

dulu dkat kuching ada Burger King.. dekat tepi corner berdekatan dgn tun jugah.. Respon tidak byk.. TUTUP lahhh ahahhaha...

Posted by: Apai Salooi at 25 June 2006 3:32 PM | Link to comment

u noe when i saw the BURGER TIMES stall, wat was on my head was.....'wait till kenny sia sees tis man'

Posted by: rhoda at 26 June 2006 2:47 PM | Link to comment

lawl!that's located at 3rd mile siang siang coffee shop wasn't it

Posted by: Paul at 14 August 2006 7:16 PM | Link to comment

Jalan Song oso got burger time. not only 1, got 2 there

Posted by: Stewart at 11 September 2006 10:47 PM | Link to comment

i tested the burger myself, is nice they are homemade mayo and blackpper ! there is few burger times stall in town in siangsiang 3rd mile, siangsiang bdc, expert bdc, sin wan jln song, peach garden jln song and times cafe 3rd mile. try it out !!

Posted by: grave at 29 October 2006 7:50 PM | Link to comment

Hi..I Live In Englad ,,a Ton Called Slough We HAve A Buger Shop Called Buger King! It Brilliant :) x

Posted by: Elise at 05 June 2008 8:15 PM | Link to comment

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