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20 December 2005
Short Talk:
I changed the photo in the contest for the Pixart Photobook giveaway, so head over there if you want a second shot at it. ;)
"Merry Christmas" Is Another Way Of Saying Screw You
This is ridiculous.
Do you know that in the United States right now, there's this huge debate going on about the use of the word "Christmas"?

Apparently some people thought it's offensive and inappropriate to say "Merry Christmas" in public. See, the USA is a multicultural society so there's a lot of Americans who do not celebrate Christmas by default. Initially, their government bodies and major shopping complexes decided to start using the more politically-correct and all-encompassing "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons Greetings", which I thought was fine.
And then it happened. Some donkeys came along and said "NO! It is not OK to use the word 'Christmas' at all! Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. It has the word 'Christ' in it. If you use that you'll be isolating all the Buddhists, Muslims, Jewish, etc who do not celebrate Christmas at all!"

So they began renaming everything Christmas. The transformation begun from the White House, to schools, to streets, to major department stores like Macy's etc.
Christian symbols were removed from nativity scenes.
The symbolic Christmas Tree became the Holiday Tree.
If you're Jewish, it's called the Hannukah Bush.

If you're Muslim, it's called the Allah Plant. (joke by right-wing Conservatives.)

[No. Sorry but I will not remove this picture.
ONE, I am obviously against the Christmas Tree being called anything else other than the 'Christmas Tree'. 'Hannukah Bush' and 'Allah Plant' are examples I used to illustrate the ridiculous names people came up with in the name of political correctness.
TWO, the whole point of this politically-incorrect entry is to ask people to stop being so anal about political-correctness.]
You put Christmas Holiday Decorations on your Holiday Tree. You give out Christmas Holiday Cards to friends and families. You make a fool out of yourself during your company's Christmas Holiday Dinner.
You go to the city to watch Christmas Holiday Lights. You splurge on your credit card doing Christmas Holiday Shopping.
This whole renaming thing is so ludicrous, I'm surprised they haven't changed Jesus Christ into Bob Holiday.

This is a pair of Christmas balls
Then the inevitable came. Far right religious groups including that blabbermouth Bill O'Reilly began to lambast left right and center anyone who won't use the word 'Christmas'. They wrote angry letters, boycotted products, and in true American fashion, threatened to lay the smackdown and sue the candy ass off anyone who disagreed with them.
If you say "Happy Holidays" to a conservative American, don't be surprised to hear "That's Merry Christmas to you, bitch!" in return.
What a spectacular way to ruin the Christmas mood.

Come to think about it, living in the United States is like writing for kennysia.com. You can't say anything these days without offending people.
I'm not Christian so I don't feel obligated to protect the religion. I'm all for accomodating everyone's beliefs as much as possible and even I can tell that this whole debacle is absurd. It's amazing to see everyone is trying to ram their beliefs down the opposing camp's throats with no room for tolerance at all.

If a Christian wishes a Jew "Merry Christmas", it is an act of goodwill, not a scorn because of conflicting ideas on Jesus Christ. If someone chooses to say "Happy Holidays", it is still an act of goodwill despite the choice of words. Why are these people getting so worked up? And dammit, gimme back my goddamn Christmas Tree!
The most ironic thing is that even a Muslim country like Malaysia is more tolerant towards the other people's cultures and beliefs. [2 days after I put up this entry, sadly I no longer feel that way anymore. The commenters pretty much proved that Malaysia is just as intolerant and politically-correct as the USA.]
Till then, Merry Christmas to ALL!
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uhhuh first comment! Merry christmas to all indeed!
Posted by: weicheng at 20 December 2005 12:29 PM | Link to comment
missed 1st comment by 30 secs.
Posted by: The Thing at 20 December 2005 12:30 PM | Link to comment
People over there seem to have nothing better to do. Merry Christmas to all! Keep the posts coming Kenny~
Posted by: K at 20 December 2005 12:37 PM | Link to comment
"Stop barking and speak Christian!"
- insulting rejoinder used by Castillians upon Catalonians.
Posted by: suertes at 20 December 2005 12:41 PM | Link to comment
Okie then, let's have a Party Update>
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 01, 2005
RE: Christmas Party
I'm happy to inform you that the company Christmas Party will take place on December 23, starting at noon in the private function room at the Grill House. There will be an open bar and plenty of food We'll have a small band playing traditional carols...feel free to sing along. And don't be surprised if our CEO shows up dressed as Santa Claus! A Christmas tree will be lit at 1:00pm. Exchange of gifts among employees can be done at that time; however, no gift should be over $10.00 to make the giving of gifts easy for everyone's pocket. This gathering is only for employees! Our CEO will make a specialannouncement at that time!
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Patty
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 02, 2005
RE: Holiday Party
In no way was yesterday's memo intended to exclude our Jewish employees. We recognize that Chanukah is an important holiday, which often coincides with Christmas, though unfortunately not this year. However, from now on we're calling it our "Holiday Party." The same policy applies to any other employees who are not Christians or those still celebrating Reconciliation Day. There will be no Christmas tree. No Christmas carols sung. We will have other types of music for your enjoyment. Happy now?
Happy Holidays to you and your family.
Patty
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 03, 2005
RE: Holiday Party
Regarding the note I received from a member of Alcoholics Anonymous requesting a non-drinking table ... you didn't sign your name. I'm happy to accommodate this request, but if I put a sign on a table that reads, "AA Only"; you wouldn't be anonymous anymore. How am I supposed to handle this?
Somebody?
Forget about the gift exchange, no gift exchange is allowed since the union members feel that $10.00 is too much money and executives believe $10.00 is a little chintzy.
NO GIFTS EXCHANGE WILL BE ALLOWED.
Patty
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
To: All Employees
DATE: October 04, 2005
RE: Holiday Party
What a diverse group we are! I had no idea that December 20 begins the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which forbids eating and drinkin during daylight hours. There goes the party! Seriously, we can appreciate how a luncheon at this time of year does not accommodate our Muslim employees' beliefs. Perhaps the Grill House can hold off on serving your meal until the end of the party- or else package everything for you to take it home in little foil doggy baggy. Will that work? Meanwhile, I've arranged for members of Weight Watchers to sit farthest from the dessert buffet and pregnant women will get the table closest to the restrooms. Gays are allowed to sit with each other. Lesbians do not have to sit with Gay men, each will have their own table. Yes, there will be flower arrangement for the Gay men's table. To the person asking permission to cross dress, no cross-dressing allowed though we will have booster seats for short people. Low-fat food will be available for those on a diet. We cannot control the salt used in the food we suggest for those people with high blood pressure to taste first. There will be fresh fruits as dessert for Diabetics, the restaurant cannot supply "No Sugar" desserts. Sorry!
Did I miss anything?!?!?
Patty
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All F*ucking Employees
DATE: October 05, 2005
RE: The F***ing Holiday Party
Vegetarian pricks I've had it with you people!!! We're going to keep this party at the Grill House whether you like it or not, so you can sit quietly at the table furthest from the "grill of death," as you so quaintly put it, and you'll get your f***ing salad bar, including organic tomatoes. But you know, tomatoes have feelings, too. They scream when you slice them. I've heard them scream. I'm hearing them scream right NOW! I hope you all have a rotten holiday! Drive drunk and die, The Bitch from HELL!!!!!!!!
FROM: Joan Bishop, Acting Human Resources Director
DATE: October 06, 2005
RE: Patty Lewis and Holiday Party
I'm sure I speak for all of us in wishing Patty Lewis a speedy recovery and I'll continue to forward your cards to her. In the meantime, management has decided to cancel our Holiday Party and everyone can simply work for a change.
Happy Holidays!
Posted by: anonymous at 20 December 2005 12:45 PM | Link to comment
YEA, it's a bit stupid. CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS CHRISTMAS. What's wrong with Christmas?
Posted by: valzie at 20 December 2005 12:50 PM | Link to comment
Selamat Hari Krismas!! I prefer it is spelled in Malay.
Pokok Krismas!
Cuti Krismas!
Hadiah Krismas!!
Posted by: Joy Joy at 20 December 2005 12:54 PM | Link to comment
I dun really know that...they really absurd..
Posted by: Kenny Lee at 20 December 2005 12:56 PM | Link to comment
absolutely absurd ler.
so a Jew can't wish a Christian merry christmas then? I can wish a Muslim Selamat Hari Raya even if I'm not Muslim right? Can I wish Happy Deepavali if I'm not celebrating it?
The whole point is to celebrate and be jolly about holidays, regardless your damn religion or your racial preferrence. The holidays are here to cheer us up and unite each other, not screw things up and divide. So what if we celebrate holidays that aren't connected to our beliefs at all? I get damned to the very depths of hell/valhalla/neraka?
Geez, i swear if this goes on throughout the world we might as well be clones with one similar identity, living one similar life, and shagging similar laydees without worrying what their religion is.
Posted by: hL at 20 December 2005 12:59 PM | Link to comment
Hi Kenny! I've always enjoyed reading your postings. Keep it up!
I like what you have here, but I think the selection of words to rename the Christmas Tree was quite inappropriate. Christmas and Hannukah are religious celebrations, so the Muslim equivalent should be Aidilfitri (or just Eid).
Allah is God's name (worshipped by Christians, Jews and Muslims) and you should exercise every caution when using it. It is definitely not a joking matter - in fact it's very wrong to turn it into a joke and make fun of it.
I guess this is pure ignorance, but believe me, ignorance will do you no good. Do try to understand others.
I didn't just point out what was wrong but also gave you what it is supposed to be. So please take this comment constructively, and I hope to see the pic changed.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday!
Posted by: Hamdan at 20 December 2005 1:05 PM | Link to comment
WELL SAID, KENNY! WELL SAID!
Posted by: Nick at 20 December 2005 1:10 PM | Link to comment
Sawaddekap!!!! Pom mai put alai na kap mai ko ping ponpai samprok khun dai tirak alai noi kap, malai put chan rat "Merry Christmas or Holiday" knop tai ijuk...
Sounds politically correct like this.
Posted by: blitz at 20 December 2005 1:13 PM | Link to comment
kekekeke,
bet Kenny would make a Great Christmas Tree though~
We could hang the decorations anywhere on his body~~
XD
Or better Yet, a Christmas Tree Forest~
Posted by: bC at 20 December 2005 1:13 PM | Link to comment
I must admit that there are times that I am sad to be an American. I love my country, but it has been taken over by political correctness and lawyers. And I'm not just some ordinary guy who hates all lawyers, I am a lawyer and I am fed up with the stupidity going on in American society.
However, I must also note though, that since we're on the topic of Christ and Christians.... Do some quick research on the savage attacks on the new movie The Chronicles of Narnia by anti-Christian?/atheist? groups in Britain.
Posted by: Jeff from LA at 20 December 2005 1:17 PM | Link to comment
so ok, dont' everyone jump on me at once, but I feel there's something to be said about the reluctance of some people to call everything "christmas" around this time of year.
I think its not so much of being intolerant towards Christians and Christianity (and heck, there are even some Christians who believe that Christmas as we know it has become some commercialised that its completely removed from the original Biblical meaning), but more about the assumptions that are implicit.
In America, and unlike Malaysia, the religion that holds most sway is still Christianity, by a huge amount. You won't get many if any non-Chinese saying "gong xi fa cai" to a Chinese-american, nor would get non-muslim americans saying "eid mubarak" to muslim americans.
In america, everyone is generally assumed to be Christian unless otherwise stated. this is completely personal, of course, but I feel that Malaysians on the whole might well be more knowledgeable about other religions that americans are.
I completely agree that anyone wishing anyone else "merry christmas" could well be taken as good will. But when was the last time (in america anyway) you heard someone saying "eid mubarak", "happy divali", "gong xi fa cai" or "shalom"?
It's surely understandable that americans who follow other faiths would want equal coverage, or at least more?
Posted by: bob at 20 December 2005 1:29 PM | Link to comment
Hi
I think you have some misconception when portraying the picture of Allah Tree.
If you are smart, think again. Do what is necessary.
Selamat Hari Natal & Selamat Bercuti...
Posted by: halda at 20 December 2005 1:30 PM | Link to comment
god (hah), typos like nobody's business.
that's what i get for typing at 2 in the morning.
Posted by: bob at 20 December 2005 1:36 PM | Link to comment
This reminds me of an episode in South Park.
The one with 'Mr Hankee - the Christmas Poo'. "P
Posted by: brennan at 20 December 2005 2:05 PM | Link to comment
Kenny just put the "Allah" tree for a joke. SO? Sensitive Malays gonna scold him again?
Why do kenny always have to put up with demanded changes to his blog? Where's the freedom for him to write wat he wants?
Posted by: kit fan at 20 December 2005 2:21 PM | Link to comment
Not that I'm trying to police your blog or anything, Kenny, far from it; but I find the phrase that you coined, "Allah Plant", to be quite offensive.
We do know that you're trying to pull off a light-hearted joke, but I know many others who would find it offensive. This is because Allah is the name of our God, and we do not use his name in jest or in humor. Using/Making fun of the name of a holiday related to Islam or such in the name of satire is fine though, and that would be more appropriate.
My apologies if this sounded like a contemptuous message, but it really wasn't meant to be such; it's an advice. I'm just trying to enlighten you on how the usage of our God's name should be treated with care and veneration.
Posted by: Wan Zafran at 20 December 2005 2:34 PM | Link to comment
Hi Kenny... its becoming a bit of a joke in australia too.
4 out of 7 people in the team I work with do not celebrate christmas. So currently there are xmas decorations everywhere around the whole office except around the area where those guys sit. Its quite ridiculous... :P
Posted by: astrogirl at 20 December 2005 2:34 PM | Link to comment
first of all, not all muslims and malays, and not all malays are muslims.
and I wouldn't exactly call that "scolding", i think its more like asking someone to show respect for your beliefs and convictions.
and of course kenny can choose what he want to do to his blog, he has the freedom to write what he wants, he just bloody did.
on the flip side, if kenny decides to continue having comments enabled, others also have the freedom to offer their opinions.
Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 20 December 2005 2:40 PM | Link to comment
i think baing malaysian gives us a better perspective on it.. i mean, i'm not christian, buti love christmas, i go around saying merry christmas, go christmas-ing with my muslim, hindu, budddhist, and ahteist buddies.... its' just a celebration... i mean, we don't view it in a religious sense...
stupid people. can't believe i'm heading to live there next year. so i ca't wish anyone merry christmas. pah.
Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 20 December 2005 2:49 PM | Link to comment
Selamat Hari Krismas! Saw this when I went JB.
Posted by: pinkdoll at 20 December 2005 3:01 PM | Link to comment
Merry Christmas!!!!!!
Posted by: JK at 20 December 2005 3:03 PM | Link to comment
Merry Christmas, Kenny. And by that I mean, Merry Christmas, Kenny.
Posted by: Kurt at 20 December 2005 3:25 PM | Link to comment
hi kenny,
the ALLAH plant isnt a joke...:(
i'm very surpirse to see this kind of stupid joke about religious in this blog because u knoe wat? i'm one of ur fans...and i'm really annoy with your 'Allah joke'
i dun care whether if u wants to rephrase it in to the other word...it's ur blog & u have the right to post about what you want... but i think u noe that this is Malaysia. We have to respect each other & try not to insult one & another. it's really frustating post Kenny
We're different country & not like AMERICAN...
(remember sixtheseal? abt the drugs stuff...)
Thanks Kenny...
Keep on blogging (& keep it clean...)
Posted by: dekwan at 20 December 2005 3:25 PM | Link to comment
Political correctness takes away the true meaning of everything.
Might as well we all start to talk in generalities so that we don't offend anybody.
Posted by: SaDdNesZ,jc at 20 December 2005 3:31 PM | Link to comment
We at the Jabatan Anti-Kristian Malaysia (JAKM) are suing Kenny Sia and the website kennysia.com over the excessive use of the word "Christmas" in a single post, which includes the word "Christmas" 16 times and 5 which were crossed out but still visible.
To avoid such a lawsuit, kennysia.com must change all mensions of "Christmas" to "Natal Day" as we deem the presense of "Christ" in "Christmas" as sacriledgeous...
LoL... joking kenny :)
Posted by: Jon at 20 December 2005 3:35 PM | Link to comment
I lived in US and actually it is more of a overreaction by the media on this issue. The average American there probably do not even give a damm about saying Happy holidays or Merry Christmas.
It makes no difference to them, its only words and it is a holiday for their friends and family to come together and enjoy the holidays...
Posted by: Francis at 20 December 2005 3:49 PM | Link to comment
This is a pretty old topic, been going on for a few years.
Posted by: Quit Smoking at 20 December 2005 4:09 PM | Link to comment
Then there is the Politically Correct reaction from a few years ago, where at one church I went to (which was a Uniting Church ... aka ex-methodist who don't beleive in Drinking), banned saying Merry Christmas, as Merry = getting Drunk according to them.
Same church which banned me from telling jokes under the complaint that 'Jokes are not based on real life, therefore they were lies' ... so I was a liar if I told jokes and lying is a sin.
Somedays you just can't win!
Anyway, Merry Xmas, happy holidays, Happy Ramadam, Happy Hanakah and good will to all men and women and anyone who is neither man nor woman ... animals, plants, rocks ... energy creatures from other dimensions ... did I leave anyone out?
Posted by: Dabido (Teflon) at 20 December 2005 4:10 PM | Link to comment
i read somewhere in a book that the actual date of the birth of Christ is around March, and there are speculations that the people at the some London churches are keeping this from public. Dec 25 is said to be following the Pagans. but this piece of news is very old. around 1960s.
chill out, people. maybe Kenny doesn't do that on purpose.
anyway Kenny, run away, you're now the target of angry durian attackers!
Posted by: snn at 20 December 2005 4:34 PM | Link to comment
Americans. Fuck them and their political correctness!
I'm going to have a beer.
Posted by: Unladen Swallow at 20 December 2005 4:46 PM | Link to comment
Humans are dumb.
Period.
Posted by: pwnzorzz at 20 December 2005 5:13 PM | Link to comment
Sometimes being too politically correct removes all the fun from life.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Posted by: nick at 20 December 2005 5:36 PM | Link to comment
We are taught "THIS is RIGHT, and THAT is WRONG" - this is how we define politically correctness? If so, America's Education is heading to Oblivion with Bush's Political Correctness.
It's a Tree! A Tree people have been calling Christmas Tree for decades (or longer!) Just because of political correctness, they're changing the name for a Seasonal Holiday. - Hats off to them for being such spoil sports.
Merry Christmas to All (Apart from those who may take offence; Bugger Off Else Where Then!)
Posted by: Colin at 20 December 2005 5:53 PM | Link to comment
Hey Kenny, Merry Christmas to you ... and to all you anal retentives out there, stuff yourself up a Thanks Giving Turkey!
Posted by: Haywud Jablomi at 20 December 2005 6:04 PM | Link to comment
OMG!! I have to change my name to Holiday....From now on, i am going to be known as Mr Holiday...These craps bullshits could only happen in America....
Posted by: chris at 20 December 2005 6:06 PM | Link to comment
To me, all this PC talk is quite entertaining. Goes to show that some people have way too much time on their hands.
Merry Christmas to you also. I hope you will have a good end of year.
Posted by: mac at 20 December 2005 6:49 PM | Link to comment
I'm disappointed that you've neglected the non-christian, non-muslim, non-jewish.
how could you forget about the bushel of buddha?
Posted by: Vagus at 20 December 2005 7:51 PM | Link to comment
Allah is not just used to refer to the Muslim god. It is an arabic word that means God. It is not exclusive to the Muslims only.
Nobody knows the actual birthdate of Jesus Christ but Dec 25 was chosen many centuries ago as a day to celebrate his birth. Dec 25 might or might not have pagan roots but the christmas tree, easter eggs and many other symbols associated with Christianity have real pagan roots. When the early christians converted, they reused their pagan symbols and put new meaning into it, this time, relating to Christianity.
I'm not claming to be accurate to the smallest dot, so if you want real accurate stuffs, look up reliable sources on the Internet and reliable books and encylopaedias.
This comment was posted in reply to a few previous comments. Merry Christmas! Remember the reason for the season.
And don't get all your panties in a knot. Remember last year (or one of the previous years) christians couldn't sing songs that have references to Jesus in front of the Yang Di-Pertuan Agong in order not to insult him? Is that called being sensitive too? Allah tree is a joke, get over it, and the word Allah isn't even exclusive to the Muslims only.
Posted by: Whothenanny? at 20 December 2005 8:02 PM | Link to comment
changing the name for the sake of other religion is weird...and its not respecting own religion anyway...
I dun think othwer religions will mind so much...it seems that they are making a big fuss out of everything...
juz like I wldnt wan ppl to change the name of Vesak Day to be politically correct...
bullshit...
Posted by: Wei De at 20 December 2005 8:21 PM | Link to comment
Very well said, what do you think about the changing the word "Christmas" to "Xmas". That's like removing Christ from Christ's Mass
just my 2 cents.
Posted by: Herman at 20 December 2005 8:29 PM | Link to comment
Oh shit, sure critisize the WHOLE country for something the MEDIA is making noise about. Heaven forbid anyone in the world reads what the Utusan Malaysia writes.
Posted by: bishop at 20 December 2005 8:39 PM | Link to comment
Hahaha! As me and my brother like to say: "Stupid Rednecks".
Posted by: Hsin at 20 December 2005 8:42 PM | Link to comment
You are right all the way, you know. Wishing anyone a Merry Christmas is more a matter of goodwill that does not have to carry a religious connotation. I am not a Muslim but I don't feel offended if anyone wishes me Selamat Hari Raya at Aidilfitri and I certainly won't complain about the holiday that the government has declared for the occasion!
Posted by: bayi at 20 December 2005 8:45 PM | Link to comment
Merry Christmas! :))
Posted by: wh at 20 December 2005 10:03 PM | Link to comment
you should change the chrismas tree to "father" tree and hanukkah bush to "Yahweh" bush. Then, it'll be funny.
Posted by: zky at 20 December 2005 10:05 PM | Link to comment
Reminds me of the stoopid Americans changing the name of "French fries" to "Freedom fries". Taking something which has been known that way for ages and changing it just because it angers people.
Posted by: sonata at 20 December 2005 10:05 PM | Link to comment
What's the big deal? They're just names. Condemning the whole country isn't right, but then again half the citizens down there voted for Bush.
*pauses*
Enough proof?
Merry Christmas Kenny!
Posted by: Huda at 20 December 2005 10:31 PM | Link to comment
What's the big deal? They're just names.
Merry Christmas Kenny!
Posted by: Huda at 20 December 2005 10:32 PM | Link to comment
A Cheeee Bye Christmas 2 u and done pray pray with religion of the book.
Posted by: Flker at 20 December 2005 10:33 PM | Link to comment
Merry christmas to my christian mates :-)
but seriously kenny, i tought u better remove the "allah tree" joke coz firstly it was a named of god for muslim and we ourselves as muslim cannot name things in the name of god..it was a BIG NO
u know what i meant, it will matter of time the pic will published in conservative malay paper (u know which) and dont surprise it will become topic in parliament raised by publicity hungry MP's
I know u meant it as a joke but i love ur blog and i dont want it to be used as an issue for certain politicians and conservative lot
Love u Kenny..and Merry Christmas :-)
Posted by: Adi at 20 December 2005 10:45 PM | Link to comment
Kenny, yeah, I agree with the person who pointed out the difference between your use of the name of a holiday versus using our God's name in invoking humour. I would not have objected had you called it the Eid Tree, because that is the name of the holiday. But despite me not being an overtly pious person, I (and many other Muslims) find it offensive for you to use the name of our God in such a manner.
Posted by: Liza at 20 December 2005 10:46 PM | Link to comment
I like to dedicate the last tree to Kenny Nabu Chee and wish u a happy Kenny Nabu Christmas.
Posted by: Buster at 20 December 2005 10:57 PM | Link to comment
funny how no one cares over here in the states about that lol
Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 20 December 2005 11:15 PM | Link to comment
btw, jesus christ is honoured not just in christianity, but by islam, hinduism, buddhism, and even non-religious people, esp in the US. so you won't see any changes anytime soon.
Posted by: tinkertailor at 20 December 2005 11:19 PM | Link to comment
Can I say Mary Christmas ?
Posted by: Wingz at 20 December 2005 11:29 PM | Link to comment
hmm we dont seem to have any problems here in oregon.
and regarding the comment on "half the US votes for Bush", we dont even think its true. Who knows they f*cked up the votes...
Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 20 December 2005 11:30 PM | Link to comment
I think I could agree with Hamdan & zky.
If you could put there " Allah Tree " then why not replacing " Hanukkah " with " Yahweh " instead ? ( or changing " Christmas " to " Holy Father " ? )
You see, relating " Allah " ( God ) with " Hanukkah " & " Christmas " ( festivities )
is an erroneous combination.
They just dont fit into the whole picture !
By the way,
it is a habit for the Westerners to use the word Allah whenever they refer to Islam and Muslims, without knowing that the word itself means " God " in Arabic. Perhaps, by ignorance, you also must had fallen with the Ang Moh stereotypical definition of Islam. Poor Kenny.
So, if you wish to stick with " Hanukkah " and " Christmas ", then IMHO it would be approperiate if you could replace the word " Allah " with " Aidilfitri " instead.
Then, it would sound more relevant and perhaps could be simply taken as a joke by fellow Muslims.
A joke is a joke when you know where you are heading to.
Kenny, I luv ur blog.
But how I wish that you could be more sensitive.
Posted by: Eid Al - Masih at 21 December 2005 12:11 AM | Link to comment
i'd like to c a buddha shrub or buddha holidays banzai tree
Posted by: NecrosavaNt at 21 December 2005 12:23 AM | Link to comment
Sigh.That's why i hate adults(im becoming one of them...).They always make things COMPLICATED and think COMPLICATED.Sometimes way toooooo sensitive.
Merry Christmas to you! yeah...MERRY CHRISTMAS i say!ho ho ho.
Posted by: wing at 21 December 2005 12:46 AM | Link to comment
Since we cannot use "Allah" or God's name in vain.... then are you trying to tell me that muslims do not say "OMG"??...doesnt that contain 'God' in it as well???
I also bet muslims frequently exclaim "Jesus Christ"!! or "For Christ's sake"!!.... isnt that as insensitive as well...
Get a grip on life buddy....!
Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 21 December 2005 1:24 AM | Link to comment
I pity u man Kenny... Being famous has it's downside.. Just remember. Although you hear more negatives coming in, it doesn't mean those who support you have vanished or diminished in any way.
Cheers and Merry Christmas....
Posted by: Dude at 21 December 2005 2:19 AM | Link to comment
Kenny, I agree with you... I really don't see the point for none christian people to have problems to greet people with "Merry Christmas". I am Chinese, none christian, and I am totally fine to say "merry christmas" to anyone! WTF is the holiday tree? Maybe Chinese might consider to put CNY tree to it too... hahaha..
Posted by: TC at 21 December 2005 2:22 AM | Link to comment
I think you are over exagerating. I stay in United States and I always wish my customers Merry Christmas. Yes, we have to be sensitive to all the multi cultures here, but ain't you kinda going over the board?
Posted by: SY at 21 December 2005 2:35 AM | Link to comment
I think you are over exagerating. I stay in United States and I always wish my customers Merry Christmas. Yes, we have to be sensitive to all the multi cultures here, but ain't you kinda going over the board?
Posted by: SY at 21 December 2005 2:36 AM | Link to comment
SY, have you read the newspapers? Keep up with your local news!
Posted by: Pluto at 21 December 2005 2:49 AM | Link to comment
the world will be a peaceful place without religions.
Posted by: religion less at 21 December 2005 3:27 AM | Link to comment
I am not christian, I don't really celebrate christmas. BUT I have christmas tree, I decorate my house with Christmas stuff, I say Merry Christmas to people. What's is the problem??
Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 21 December 2005 3:44 AM | Link to comment
I'm a proud atheist front-liner, but I don't have problems with simple stuff like the calling of christmas christmas. Its the more complicated issues like nuclear-power presidents listening to their imaginary friend for invasion advice that makes me want to force-feed someone clozepine.
And no, the religious right is just trying to demonise atheists as usual. Check the american atheist website and read the comments... most of them are perfectly ok with whatever the holidays are called.
Finally, wishing another person a Merry Christmas does NOT amount to a conversion attempt, so no offence taken there!
Posted by: LeFire at 21 December 2005 6:57 AM | Link to comment
there's more to the argument kenny.
but props to you for voicing your opinion - true american style.
Posted by: justagirl at 21 December 2005 7:16 AM | Link to comment
Reply to Anonymous,
Err.. what Allah Plant got to do with " muslims frequently exclaiming "Jesus Christ"!! or "For Christ's sake"!! " ??
They aint saying " Jesus Christ Plant " or " For Christ Plant sake ", are day ?
Get a grip on your life too buddy....!
Posted by: The Other Anonymous at 21 December 2005 7:39 AM | Link to comment
Quote from religion less :
" the world will be a peaceful place without religions. "
Something from the net :
" There is an emptiness and a loneliness that an atheist feels, which people of faith cannot understand. The world is absurd, an accident. Science has, or will have, all the answers, but life has no real meaning or significance. Death is final. You can have influence and an impact on the world through your children; you can do well, be remembered in the history books for hundreds, even thousands of years; when the sun dies mankind may colonize other star systems, maybe even other galaxies. But ultimately, even if it takes 15 Billion years, the universe itself will die, or collapse into a black hole or whatever, and the end is absolute nothingness, the only thing that is infinite is a void. Life, then, is meaningless and death frightening. Truth and morality can become relative, which may lead to moral confusion, hedonism, and worse. But instead of the contempt for religious people that many atheists claim to feel, I respected them, and often envied them the security, the certainty, the comfort they experienced. " ( as quoted from Jeffrey Lang )
Posted by: Religious Tolerence at 21 December 2005 7:43 AM | Link to comment
The holiday celebrations is about celebrating life and being thankful that a fruitful year has pass...it's not about religion no more...
sigghhh....what is the world coming to????
Posted by: spazm at 21 December 2005 7:52 AM | Link to comment
oh for fucks sake, of course you won't remove the picture - it's not even remotely offensive. trying to "build up" what little bad boy image that you have? grow up.
Posted by: beercan at 21 December 2005 7:54 AM | Link to comment
no kenny is not exaggerating. read the article in the sunday star of 18 dec, a columnist wrote a lot about how christmas had been hijacked. a paper in australia too. (you can read them in my blog).
even in our own country, remember last year there was this hoo-haa about banning christmas carols with the name 'jesus' in it, and carollers are not allowed to sing 'churchy' hymns esp. with the mention of jesus in it - the can only sing secular hymns with santa and his reindeer!
Posted by: lucia at 21 December 2005 8:15 AM | Link to comment
"TWO, the whole point of this politically-incorrect entry is to ask people to stop being so anal about political-correctness."
Wakakakaka...this one cracked me up in the morning. Spot on the topic Kenny!
Cheers!
Posted by: bing at 21 December 2005 8:28 AM | Link to comment
Well.. it is afterall America. Why am I not surprised. Was in D.C. 2 weeks ago for a meeting and the big hulla-bulla was Bush's "Christmas" cards that is sent to all heads of states etc. No "Christmas" being mentioned there, and the media being themselves, jumps on it.
Get a grip people. If we want to be really politically correct, we might as well sew our mouths shut because anything we say may be offensive to someone right?!
Posted by: FON at 21 December 2005 8:30 AM | Link to comment
Not that I would like anything changed, but one of the previous poster got it right.
That should have been an "Aidilfitri Plant", or even better "Pohon Aidilfitri".
The Buddhist does not have an equivalent "New Year Celebration". Even if they have, the closest you'd get would be a "Vesak Tree".
Anyway, about the "debate", I only have one quote:
"Never underestimate the power of ignorance."
Posted by: Ole'Wolvie at 21 December 2005 9:21 AM | Link to comment
I don't CARE whether you want it called an Allah Plant or an Eid Tree or a Satay Shrub. It doesn't matter. I don't want to be politically correct so stop forcing me to become politically correct.
If I want to be politcally-correct, I'll start spelling 'Womyn' for 'Woman' (because 'woman' has the word 'man' in it).
Offensive is not the mere mention your God's name, whether in vain or not. Offensive is berating your religion and calling your God a motherfucker. That's offensive and I will never do that.
Maybe I was wrong. Maybe deep down, Malaysia is also a hypersensitive, politically-correct and intolerant country after all.
Posted by: kennysia at 21 December 2005 9:40 AM | Link to comment
Way to go kenny!
Posted by: Rudolf at 21 December 2005 10:45 AM | Link to comment
its all about being politically correct and gaining political support from radical religous groups. christmas may have been the birthday of Jesus but currently, its the best way to boost an economy with tourists and locals buying presents by the bulk. so why should it not be called the economical holiday? you just feel like punching those morons who make such a big deal about it. its actually the kids that really make christmas what it is. if it werent for kids, who would u actually buy presents for? who would you put up a christmas tree and buy christmas crackers for?
Posted by: nz-lander at 21 December 2005 10:53 AM | Link to comment
Oh my god. What's wrong with all this [RACIST COMMENT DELETED]
Posted by: PorkisGood at 21 December 2005 11:18 AM | Link to comment
Hi Kenny,
Why you name a plant after me? I am indeed honoured. [RACIST COMMENT DELETED]
Posted by: AllahAllahAllahAllahAllah at 21 December 2005 11:24 AM | Link to comment
Sorry to the guy whose comments I moderated. I say don't be too engrossed by political correctness. I didn't say to go out and attack everyone with racist and seditious comments.
Posted by: kennysia at 21 December 2005 11:27 AM | Link to comment
yeah, way to go kenny!
this is the first time i post a comment here although i've been following ur updates for a year...
"Maybe I was wrong. Maybe deep down, Malaysia is also a hypersensitive, politically-correct and intolerant country after all."
i think so too...
Posted by: Ee Lin at 21 December 2005 11:55 AM | Link to comment
Kenny,
I have full respect for you as the owner of this space. I am not telling you to be politically correct; all I am asking is to have respect towards others, and their faith. And I am not talking just for Muslims, as Allah is the one God for Muslims, Jews and Christians.
For heaven's sake, can't you see the difference between Christmas & Hannukah (festive celebrations) and Allah (name of God)? By now you should no longer be ignorant, unless you choose to remain so...
Posted by: Hamdan at 21 December 2005 12:01 PM | Link to comment
Hamdan, just shut d fuck up!
racism is started by racists who believe dat people r insulting their religion..n not vice-versa..
wat starts off as an innocent joke is misinterpreted by a idiotic fuckhead: who says dat it's RACIST!
can't we all just laugh & say: "hehe, dat was funny, but u're not being insulting,rite? u're just having a joke, trying 2 make us laugh!"
-i'd like to teach the world to sing,
in perfect harmony...
& also laugh at each others' jokes..
keep racism out of our minds..-
p/s: btw, dat's y i don't allow comments..u get morons posting stuff, trying 2 get u 2 write thing THEIR way...it's MY BLOG, MINE!
Posted by: aerikh at 21 December 2005 12:18 PM | Link to comment
you people are making a big fuss over one "Allah Plant"? For crying out loud how did a cheery post attempted to get you people to see past the religious side of the holidays become a controversial debate?
For FUCK's (since saying God would be incorrect) sake dammit. Look at it this way, Allah created the world, hence creating plants, hence Allah Plant is technically correct since he created it! Done? Can we finally enjoy the holiday spirit at kennysia.com now?
Merry Christmas All!
Posted by: kaninanonymous at 21 December 2005 12:20 PM | Link to comment
These buggers r really crazy. Getting offended by the word Christmas. Balls to them.
Posted by: Michael Chua at 21 December 2005 12:32 PM | Link to comment
Well said Kenny :D Even a Muslim country like Malaysia does indeed show mpre tolerance towards people from other cultures, beliefs and religions. That's so many times much better than Ameribloodyca.
Posted by: Michael Chua at 21 December 2005 12:34 PM | Link to comment
Dear Kenny, no apologies needed bro. I understand.
Anyway, to Mr. HamTan, woi, cheebai, I am a Christian and Allah is sure as heck not my God. You are very insensitive to my feelings by claiming Allah is my God. Idiot. Christians do not pray to Allah fool.
So shut the fuck up already and stop being ignorant, unless you choose to remain so....
Allah is the one God for Muslims, Jews and Christians indeed....what a pile of hot steaming shit....
Posted by: PorkisAwesome! at 21 December 2005 12:42 PM | Link to comment
Merry Christmas Kenny & Kennyblogreaders..Selamat Hari Natal. What's Christmas without the word Christmas??
Posted by: maria2u at 21 December 2005 12:42 PM | Link to comment
Geez, get over it guys! Kenny is not instigating or inciting anything even remotely related to religion!
He's just pointing out something that is being taken way overboard in the other continent!
It's not about being politically correct either. Just leave him alone and enjoy the holidays, will ya? Whether it's Christmas or what not, it's the holiday season. stop arguing over petty things.
Posted by: Sheila at 21 December 2005 12:54 PM | Link to comment
hehe..
well said, Sheila..
Merry Christmas!
~muax~
oh, not forgetting Kenny & everyone else too! :p
Posted by: aerikh at 21 December 2005 1:05 PM | Link to comment
hehe..
well said, Sheila..
Merry Christmas!
~muax~
oh, not forgetting Kenny & everyone else too! :p
Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 21 December 2005 1:06 PM | Link to comment
The concept of being politically correct has reached the heights in the US, don't you agree?
Posted by: Adam at 21 December 2005 1:32 PM | Link to comment
Ummmm. 94% of Americans celebrate "Christmas".
And it's not "radical religious groups" that are doing this. Rather it's a response to the PC crowd that unfortunately, has been trying to jam "Happy Holidays" down our collective throats.
The (once) silent majority are the people that are fighting the good Christmas fight. Not some "right wing" agenda as the left accuses.
Because if it's the "right wing" that is fighting the Christmas fight, it's the left wing that started this by trying to remove the origin of the holiday from even being mentioned anywhere...
Go figure...
Posted by: abraxis at 21 December 2005 1:38 PM | Link to comment
Allah plant isn't anything offensive to the muslims. It is just some oversensitive dumbo who thinks it is. There is a distinct difference between a christmas tree and an Allah plant. An Allah plant is a plant that is not known to existance and therefore it's a joke. Allah plant is clearly a joke.
KNNB to those who can't take it as a joke, i dare them to bomb us. Or me at least. A christmas tree is a Christmas tree and goddamnit certainly not a holiday tree. I am not sure about Allah plant, so let all of us sit down and wait for next Hari Raya and see if there's one.
Posted by: wenjun at 21 December 2005 1:40 PM | Link to comment
Hi Religious Tolerence,
History says it all. How many wars were based on religions differential?
Posted by: GG at 21 December 2005 2:12 PM | Link to comment
Hi Kenny,
I think it would be a better idea if you remove the offensive picture. I sure don't want to see you get arrested by the ISA and we won't be hearing from you for a long time and wondering where you are...We all Malaysians have to respect each other's culture and religion. Be cool about it, remove that picture please. Merry Christmas to all! :)
Posted by: Anonymous at 21 December 2005 2:25 PM | Link to comment
Anonymous, the thing is - that picture is as offensive as Chicken Little.
Do I look like I'm trying to incite a religion hate war here? Of course not. Don't be paranoid. Be cool about my manner of expression.
If I am ever arrested by the ISA because of that picture, then I'm too ashamed to be a Malaysian.
Posted by: kennysia at 21 December 2005 2:38 PM | Link to comment
I'll be ashamed to be a Malaysian too.
Posted by: wenjun at 21 December 2005 3:09 PM | Link to comment
Hey, what's with this idiot Anonymous and his veiled subtle threats?
"I sure don't want to see you get arrested by the ISA and we won't be hearing from you for a long time and wondering where you are"
Uh huh. Why don't you tell me who you are you fucking wimp. I sure wanna see you get beaten up by a bunch of hired thugs and wondering where you are after I kidnap you and put you inside a fucking dog house.
Go ahead and cry to Harian Metro, I dare you!
Posted by: PorkisGood at 21 December 2005 3:42 PM | Link to comment
Hey, what's with this idiot Anonymous and his veiled subtle threats?
"I sure don't want to see you get arrested by the ISA and we won't be hearing from you for a long time and wondering where you are"
Uh huh. Why don't you tell me who you are you fucking wimp. I sure wanna see you get beaten up by a bunch of hired thugs and wondering where you are after I kidnap you and put you inside a fucking dog house.
Go ahead and cry to Harian Metro, I dare you!
Posted by: PorkisGood at 21 December 2005 3:42 PM | Link to comment
so...
if those ppl u wish arent having a holiday due to some obscure reason, isnt it then politically wrong to wish "Happy Holidays" ??
They are so anal. Itz a fact tht Christmas is for the birth of christ so y would it be wrong to say merry christmas?! Saying merry christmas doesnt mean non-christians can't enjoy the festivities.
Posted by: drea at 21 December 2005 4:03 PM | Link to comment
Correction.. The more liberal the country the more shiet u get from those other ethnic races. U see...example. If u are in Iran.. u hang a cross high on ur church, it gets burned down n u get stoned to death. Now these same guys in the USA bitch n moan abuot equality..about Crosses should be taken down..i mean wtf ? Do any of you guys out there get what i am trying to say here... trust me man..only Muslim SOB's do this kinda shiet! U will never hear this from Buddhist , Hinduist or anything. Fucking 90% Bumi shiet. ooops.. i think i got a bit side tracked.
Posted by: iB6uB9 at 21 December 2005 4:30 PM | Link to comment
Correction.. The more liberal the country the more shiet u get from those other ethnic races. U see...example. If u are in Iran.. u hang a cross high on ur church, it gets burned down n u get stoned to death. Now these same guys in the USA bitch n moan abuot equality..about Crosses should be taken down..i mean wtf ? Do any of you guys out there get what i am trying to say here... trust me man..only Muslim SOB's do this kinda shiet! U will never hear this from Buddhist , Hinduist or anything. Fucking 90% Bumi shiet. ooops.. i think i got a bit side tracked.
Posted by: iB6uB9 at 21 December 2005 4:31 PM | Link to comment
By the same reasoning of those who advocate politically-correct morals, the use of fairy lights on xmas trees would thus be a slur on non-christian homosexuals.
Posted by: tigerjoe at 21 December 2005 4:34 PM | Link to comment
Porkisgood, I think you are too sensitive to the so-called veiled threats. :)
Posted by: nick at 21 December 2005 4:49 PM | Link to comment
Well, I guess they didn't want to offend other religions... But now look what has happened D:
But by right, they shouldn't change the name because it's their religion and their right to celebrate it. Just like how we celebrate hari raya, chinese new year and thaipusam. (And if i'm not mistaken, thaipusam and hari raya for this year was on the same week, yes?)
I guess a few americans are a bit on edge with all this racism and feuds between religions going on D:
Maybe it's just easier to wish 'Merry christmas and happy holidays.' It may be long but it's definately safe =D
Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 21 December 2005 5:37 PM | Link to comment
I didn't even bother reading the above comments because I know if I did, I would probably forget what it was that I wanted to say. lol.
Honestly, some people have a major stick up their behind. What's wrong with the word Christmas. It's not like you're forcing something on someone else. I mean, unless wishing someone merry christmas involves making them give you christmas presents, and making them attend mass... then, that's a different thing altogether.
What next? Are we going to disallow people from having birthday parties because it's not our birthday?
I think some people are also over-reacting to the Allah bush picture. Kenny's just trying to make a point - he didn't imply anything negative by that picture.
With the picture Kenny posted previously (the one of him dressed as a terrorist), it implied that Muslims were terrorists, yes. And Kenny very rightly altered the picture afterwards. But in this instance, I really don't see any reason for why Kenny should alter or take down that picture.
Posted by: Nadia at 21 December 2005 6:07 PM | Link to comment
I KNEW this was going to be fun!
Posted by: ronlim at 21 December 2005 7:19 PM | Link to comment
Guys, can't we all get along and have a little pig once in a while? If you muslims have ever said the name "Jesus Christ" and used it as a profanity then stop your bitching. In fact just stop your bitching full stop, bloody johnny-come-lately cults enforcing their rights across the world. I'm sick of your bleating. Either put up, or fuck off.
Posted by: I love Pork at 21 December 2005 8:02 PM | Link to comment
The following letter has been sent to PM, TPM, JAIS, JAKIM, and several local newspapers.
Assalamualaikum Warrahmatullahi Wabarakatuh,
Saya ingin membawa kepada perhatian pihak tuan tentang suatu laman web "blog" yang di terbitkan di Malaysia. Di "blog" tersebut, saudara pengarang telah menggunakan perkataan "Allah" dalam konteks yang melawakkan. Pengarang juga sertakan gambar yang mepersendakan lagi nama Allah di dalam blognya. Saya sedar bahawa isu ini adalah sensitif dan ramai yang melawat blog tersebut menyangka bahawa orang Malaysia ini "over sensitive". Ada juga terdapat komen yang boleh mencetuskan pegaduhan kaum malah lagi agama. Pengarang tersebut hanya perlu mengeluarkan statement "Allah" serta gambar yang kontroversi itu. Saya ingin menyampaikan ketidak puas hati terhadap cara cara orang bukan Islam menggunakan nama Allah dengan sewenang-wenangnya. Apatah lagi saudara pengarang itu adalah rakyat Malaysia yang tidak sedar bahawa sikap toleransi antara kaum dan agama menghasilkan sebuah negara yang harmoni.
Sekiranya orang bukan Islam Malaysia tidak mengambil endah tentang agama Islam, dan tidak menghormati antara satu sama lain dari segi agama, tradisi dan adat, mereka ini tidak berhak menjadi rakyat Malaysia.
Its inapropriate to use the word "Allah" in a humouristic or disrespectful manner. This blog refuses to remove the picture and statement despite many comments which either were againts the joke or in religious dispute. This sort of ignorant blogs can ignite a religious and racial misunderstanding amongst Malaysians. This is not an exageration of a small matter. Its a malicious assault against the Islamic people of Malaysia and a means to ignite a racial and religious conflict. If the writer meant it as a joke, then fine, the joke was done, now remove the statement and picture for the sake of the Muslim people.
Saya berharap pihak tuan akan mengambil tindakan yang sewajarnya terhadap blog-blog yang tidak menghormati agama dan kaum di Malaysia. Saya berharap laporan atau siasatan dapat dilaksanakan untuk mengelakkan sebarang kekeliruan dan syak wasangka.
Alamat blog:
http://www.kennysia.com/archives/2005/12/merry_christmas.php#comments
Sekian terima kasih
PS: NOT Hamdan. But what would u care, ur just the insensitive, arrogant and the almighty Kenny Sia.
Posted by: Kambing at 21 December 2005 8:49 PM | Link to comment
Working and living here in the US, I am experiencing first hand how this is practised at a work place. My big boss is Jewish so we had a "Holiday Party" (at a Jewish country club). You are so right on, as usual. I am going to forward your entry to my coworkers. Malaysians are much more tolerant of other religions and cultures than Americans. That makes me proud to be a Malaysian. Merry X'mas everyone!!!
Posted by: luna at 21 December 2005 9:11 PM | Link to comment
quote Come to think about it, living in the United States is like writing for kennysia.com. You can't say anything these days without offending people. endquote
I can sure see that in your posts nowadays. Hang in there man
Posted by: randomshinichi at 21 December 2005 9:52 PM | Link to comment
Way to go Kenny. Perhaps now you see why you should migrate back to Perth. Less of those sensitive people there.
Posted by: banana at 21 December 2005 9:58 PM | Link to comment
Whoa, Kambing, hilarious post! that just knocks my socks off.... people wouldn't be that bored in real life to do that, would they?
Posted by: randomshinichi at 21 December 2005 10:00 PM | Link to comment
You're lucky you're not in singapore =X they've already sued a few kids from blogging stuff like racist bla bla bla. So what's new? blog isn't private website from the start. =P
Sensitive people are everywhere. Religion fanatics are just one of them.
Posted by: HaMz at 21 December 2005 10:30 PM | Link to comment
Well.. we could say "Merry Holidays" instead of "Happy Holidays" or "Merry Christmas" for starters =P
Posted by: Rey at 21 December 2005 10:31 PM | Link to comment
One more thing, I think kenny is actually saying that everyone has the right to celebrate the festivities and religions they in the manner they wish it to be, and not in the way how others want them to celebrate. Are we getting a bit off track going that far bombarding each other with so many issues?
Posted by: Rey at 21 December 2005 10:44 PM | Link to comment
THAT is America...
If an American high school kid can sue his school for giving vacation homework and actually WINNING his case...
So, nothing surprises me anymore...
Freedom of speech is completely abused and misinterpreted nowadays....
If I can wish Muslims Selamat Hari Raya, I don't see what's their stupid fuss about non Christians wishing MERRY CHRISTMAS to all!
Thank God I don't live in the States.
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL KENNY SIA'S READERS! ;D
Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 21 December 2005 10:46 PM | Link to comment
THAT is America...
If an American high school kid can sue his school for giving vacation homework and actually WINNING his case...
So, nothing surprises me anymore...
Freedom of speech is completely abused and misinterpreted nowadays....
If I can wish Muslims Selamat Hari Raya, I don't see what's their stupid fuss about non Christians wishing MERRY CHRISTMAS to all!
Thank God I don't live in the States.
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL KENNY SIA'S READERS! ;D
Posted by: Ashley at 21 December 2005 10:47 PM | Link to comment
Ahem, another thing, internet in the first place was not owned by any organization or anyone. Literally nobody owns it at all, so we have the freedom of speech. Kenny wishes to express his mind this way, so let it be. We read, we think about it we provide judgement according to what we believe, but we SHOULDNT just go jumping into the front lines pointing out who is right and who is wrong. So called holiday spirits eh? Oh well, lets give and let give. Merry Holidays to you all.
Posted by: Rey at 21 December 2005 10:53 PM | Link to comment
Kenny,
I have full respect for you as the owner of this space. I am not telling you to be politically correct; all I am asking is to have respect towards others, and their faith. And I am not talking just for Muslims, as Allah is the one God for Muslims, Jews and Christians.
For heaven's sake, can't you see the difference between Christmas & Hannukah (festive celebrations) and Allah (name of God)? By now you should no longer be ignorant, unless you choose to remain so...
Posted by: Hamdan at December 21, 2005 12:01 PM
The last I checked, Christians don't pray to Allah
Posted by: Non-Christian at 21 December 2005 11:06 PM | Link to comment
Kenny, you've got to be the biggest noob I've ever known. When will you learn NOOB ?!??!?!?!1
I'm not saying what you did is wrong, but jeez can you like learn from experience or not what will happen?!
Posted by: Paul Tan at 21 December 2005 11:36 PM | Link to comment
kenny, i think your posts were really funny and interesting....until i read this post... like what Hamdan said, u should see the difference between festive names and the name of God... we're not being sensitive.. but can't u just show some respect towards other people's religion? just in case u didn't know, for us Muslims, the God's name is not something to be used in a humouristic way.. Stop being f***ing arrogant and ignorant....
Posted by: whatsgoingon? at 21 December 2005 11:43 PM | Link to comment
gosh....can't believe something like this could happen in the States. anyway, merry christmas and happy new year to everyone. as for the God's name debacle, Allah creates the world and everything inside it. If you mean "Allah's plant", i think it's not wrong. as long as u're not intending to use the God's name as a joke. Peace kenny.
Posted by: holidaymood at 21 December 2005 11:57 PM | Link to comment
I don't care as long as I get my holidays :)
Posted by: Jacky at 22 December 2005 12:03 AM | Link to comment
For lack of a better word, screw you. I stand by my stance. I admit I did something quite offensive with the Durian Terrorist post, for which I apologised and rectified the case.
This time round, I did not believe I did anything offensive and I have all the facts to justify it. For the record, I've also used Jesus Christ's name in vain, so sue me. I have all my weapons ready.
Posted by: kennysia at 22 December 2005 12:04 AM | Link to comment
Kenny
Yes, I pray to Allah. Spell with a capital A please. I sang song for Allah too. And Yahweh. And Lord God. God by any name is still God Almighty. I am a Catholic Christian.
Posted by: lilian at 22 December 2005 12:09 AM | Link to comment
Like i say...just as God's name (i.e. Allah)is not something to be used in a humouristic way...the name of Christ and Jesus should not be used in the same way as well....but i still see non-christians going...for christ's sake and exclaim JESUS CHRIST!!!....or even JEEZZZ....which we all know is the short form for Jesus.... SO WAT??...should we be banned from saying JESUS and CHRIST too in our speech.... To all muslims.. for Christ's sake........GET A GRIP!!! its a joke...and if u fail to see it... we cant help it...
Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 22 December 2005 12:10 AM | Link to comment
Once and for all, I did not coin the term 'Allah Plant'. Like I mentioned, it is a term coined by right-wing Conservatives in the USA. And I'm using it to illustrate my point. If you can't have an open-mind to accept my point of view, you must be narrow-minded and living in a FAKE democratic country.
As far as I'm concerned, I did not incite any hate war. I did not call for people to kill Malays like what the racist bloggers in Singapore did. That, in my opinion, is an abuse of freedom of speech. I did not abuse mine. It was a point of ILLUSTRATION.
It's not about arrogance. It's not about ignorance. It's about standing by what I believe in, and backing it up with full and concrete substance, and with FULL respect of the law. I WILL NOT BE SILENCED.
I quoted something from a source as a point of argument. So if you want to be so anal about it, go attack them as well. Don't use my identity as a Malaysian to say "Oh they're Americans and they don't know so it's ok. You're Malaysian so you must know so it's not ok."
This time round, the problem DOES NOT lie within me. The problem lies within you. Open your eyes. Accept the fact. People, whether it be Malaysians or Americans, ARE going to mention your God's name in ways other than praising it.
Tolerate. Respect, but tolerate. That's the message I'm trying to send across.
If you can't accept the petty thing of what I did is within the limits of racial tolerance, you are living in your own fantasy world.
Bad news. The world is much, much harsher out there for you.
Posted by: kennysia at 22 December 2005 12:22 AM | Link to comment
Hi, is me again. Looking at all the posts, I'd say, why all the trouble and argument? Kenny, you are a nice and funny guy and a lot of people love your blog but this is just not worth it. A humor turned into a controversy. If you would just rectify it, you can avoid the controversy and go your merry way and be happy. No more anger and despair due to this small and silly thing. By doing the right thing, you not only doing everybody a favor, you also keep you humor seeking readers coming back for all your humor. I'm getting sick of all these cursing and threats. Whatever happened to the the first half of Kennysia.com '05? You must remember your blog was featured in a "national" newspaper before and I'm sure a lot of people agree with me. Not to spoil the mood for everybody, Merry Christmas to all!
Posted by: Anonymous Again at 22 December 2005 12:25 AM | Link to comment
there's nothing wrong with Ramadhan, and so is CHRISTMAS!
Wish u a nice Christmas :)
Posted by: anonymuis at 22 December 2005 12:27 AM | Link to comment
and hey i am not that Anonymous lol
Posted by: anonymuis at 22 December 2005 12:30 AM | Link to comment
Anonymous Again, being nice and funny is but one side of me.
Please do not expect me to be nice and funny all the time. In case you forgot, I am human too, with opinions and emotions and all that jazz that a normal human being has.
This is an entry to oppose to advocates of political correctness in America. I didn't expect it, but seems like advocates of political correctness in Malaysia have risen to the occasion as well.
"You use God's name in vain, so you are wrong and you must be subjected to punishment." To me, that's a load of bullcrap and an invasion to my personal beliefs.
Am I out of line, or are people being overly sensitive? You be the judge.
Does tolerance exist within this country, or is it nothing but lip service? You be the judge.
Posted by: kennysia at 22 December 2005 12:36 AM | Link to comment
For what it's worth Kenny, I support you on this one.
Yet another case of people missing the point and reading too much into something.
Posted by: mac at 22 December 2005 12:41 AM | Link to comment
Kenny, you seem to forget that this is Malaysia, and you've been in trouble once, and the authorities don't care what you think or what you mean, they only care what they think and what they think you mean - I am not commenting whether your entry is sensitive or insensitive, but you should really think about your own ass before going out and trying to prove something when you don't have to.
Posted by: Paul Tan at 22 December 2005 12:42 AM | Link to comment
Paul, I didn't even put up a challenge, the challenge came knocking on my door.
I am not even REMOTELY inciting a racial hate war, which by the way, I am completely against. Anyone with half a brain can see that.
Deep down inside my clownish exterior, there's a Jeff Ooi inside me.
If authorities do come by, call me stupid, but this is the type of mentality I'm challenging. If Malaysia does indeed pride itself in democracy, this is her chance to prove it.
Posted by: kennysia at 22 December 2005 12:50 AM | Link to comment
hilarious.
Posted by: Paul Tan at 22 December 2005 12:53 AM | Link to comment
oh yeah kenny, tell it to them!!! i'm with you all the way!
you are so right. the problem is with them, not you, so don't you ever remove the picture or the phrase 'allah plant'. stand by what you believe in, knowing what you did was not wrong, don't ever let those narrow-minded, self-righteous, sensitive idiots tell you what to do (e.g. like once when someone told you you had gone too far, you shouldn't bow down to that person too!).
Posted by: lucia at 22 December 2005 12:54 AM | Link to comment
you're just forgetting that most of the people in charge might not have half a brain... that's what i'm trying to get across to the Jeff Ooi in you.
Posted by: Paul Tan at 22 December 2005 12:55 AM | Link to comment
Jeffooi got in trouble because of a commentor, and he never made any statement that gave the impression to authorities of incitement.
Your statement may not be inciting, but that's not for you to interpret.
From the SquatGate saga with LKS and Teresa now being made the target by the powers that be, I thought you would've learned some things from there.
By all means, stand your ground, just make sure your passport comes in handy and you're prepared for new life abroad, if you can even make it to the airport on time.
Jeff ooi got off, SixthSeal got off, maybe the authorities may get lucky this time round, who knows.
Maybe they think it's time to send a message to the blogosphere.
Posted by: oysterman at 22 December 2005 12:58 AM | Link to comment
Paul, are you content with the people in charge of this country, the very people who run the soil you step on, having half a brain?
Is this your ideal for Malaysia?
Posted by: kennysia at 22 December 2005 12:59 AM | Link to comment
Oh come on Kenny, you're no where near jeff ooi.
And I am talking in terms of political contacts and lobangs.
Unless you're well connected like him, you're not gonna wriggle out of this easily when shit hits the fan.
Posted by: oysterman at 22 December 2005 1:03 AM | Link to comment
i appreciate your effort in trying to cure people's anal retentiveness, but the reality is, you don't make fun or downplay other people's religions (or endorse some stupid republican's joke, does it make any difference?)
"Tolerate. Respect, but tolerate. That's the message I'm trying to send across." You've got the spirit, but i'm afraid you're a long way from achieving it. A tastely vaguely insulting post is not a start, lol. This has go to be one of your most tasteless posts, aside from that "i don't invite fame or something" post.
The jeffooi inside you, OMG, my tummy got spasm from laughing too much.
Posted by: kimberlycun at 22 December 2005 1:06 AM | Link to comment
oysterman has echoed my sentiments exactly. that's all i'm trying to get across to you really - honestly you have to be more prepared to 'make any difference' around here, do not charge into a battle without a REAL war plan.
Posted by: Paul Tan at 22 December 2005 1:07 AM | Link to comment
well, what about merry x'mas?
Posted by: chiulin at 22 December 2005 1:07 AM | Link to comment
merry christmas to all - i am going to sleep ! let's see how many comments are there tomorrow heh.
Posted by: Paul Tan at 22 December 2005 1:09 AM | Link to comment
"I am not even REMOTELY inciting a racial hate war, which by the way, I am completely against. Anyone with half a brain can see that."
Dont ASSUME every sees things the exact way that you do, that's ignorant. And just because people don't see things from your exact perspective, with your exact 'humour' they only have half a brain? That's nice.
"Deep down inside my clownish exterior, there's a Jeff Ooi inside me."
So please Kenny, for your own fucking sake, make up your mind what you want to do.
Be a clown.
Or be serious.
DON'T MIX THEM UP.
This post is neither funny nor serious, it's actually poking fun at a very serious matter, which you don't appear to have the tact to do. I recall that fact being proven in your ridiculous terrorist on the MRT post.
So Kenny, what's it going to be, poking fun at terrorists and stupid shit like 'Allah plants' or actually addressing issues in a serious, mature manner?
I do both, but not my friend in the SAME FUCKING POST. That's just wrong, if you haven't noticed yet.
"Kenny Sia - As sharp as a coconut"
Posted by: ShaolinTiger at 22 December 2005 1:24 AM | Link to comment
"The jeffooi inside you, OMG, my tummy got spasm from laughing too much."
kimberly, I like you but I don't like the sarcasm.
Before I started this blog, I have FIVE years of political activism to my credentials. Do you expect me to change into an ignorant bimbotic comedian overnight?
Do you SERIOUSLY believe I'm insulting another's religion in this entry? Just by the mere mention of a deity's name?
Do you SERIOUSLY think I am ENDORSING the very stupid republican that I am CONDEMNING in this entry?
I thought you're one to not bow down to pressures by men-in-uniforms. Am I wrong?
And you said you support the DAP?
If I'm indeed wrong, I will admit it and I will apologise. In this case, I am not wrong.
Paul + oysterman, don't worry. I have my connections (and lawyers) ready. Though this blog has never been political in nature, I have realised the need for qualified lawyer advice long ago.
Meanwhile, someone better sue the Buddha Bar for inciting race war because they, like, have the word 'Buddha' in their business name.
Posted by: kennysia at 22 December 2005 1:26 AM | Link to comment
Gareth, who appointed you as blog police? The Blogayatollah?
Posted by: kennysia at 22 December 2005 1:34 AM | Link to comment
The thing is Kenny, if you're not worried about yourself, at least think of your loved ones.
You have a responsibility towards them too.
Do you want your parents or gf to worry sick about you just because you're trying to prove a useless point ?
If you want to make something useful out of your political experience, you're better off using this blog spreading awareness like what lim kit siang is doing, except you target the youths/young people, where veteran oldies like LKS cannot reach easily.
You can target the party goer don't-care-rats-ass-about-anything demographic.
I don't see anything to be gained out of this unnecessary confrontation. I see a wasted opportunity from a high traffic blogsite.
Many young people are living in apathy about political happenings/awareness. Most I know don't bother to register as voters even though they're over 21.
You're better off waking these people up than trying to take your pants off showing your behinds to a hord of urukhais.
Posted by: Oysterman at 22 December 2005 1:42 AM | Link to comment
I didn't mean to steal it, so here's returning you your Christmas tree:
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Heh, happy Christmas Kenny.
Posted by: e2wen~* at 22 December 2005 1:42 AM | Link to comment
For one, you have the whole DAP idealism wrong. It's not about not bowing down to uniformed man or doing things foolishly for the sake of equality (if you understood their idealism, it's not even about equality - it's for the struggle of betterment for everyone in this country). As you can see from what that have been illustrated in this country over and over again, you still get into trouble for doing things the right way (or so you think). Trust me, I get what you're trying to say in this post only after so many comments from you. The post is vaguely insulting, and for many people that's as bad as it gets. For someone with 5-year of political credentials, I'd expect you to be more politically-correct, they do go hand in hand, don't they?
p/s: Buddhism is technically not a religion. It's a philosophy. It's next to impossible to incite a race war due to Buddha Bar's name because it's to their prerogative that the bar embraces the philosophy of Bhuddism, and the religion is about moderation so there. he is by the way, not a god.
i like you kenny, but i don't like ego.
Posted by: kimberlycun at 22 December 2005 1:45 AM | Link to comment
kimberlycun, if you think that way, then Lim Kit Siang accomplished nothing for going to jail for 2 years in 1987 for a "crime" he never commit. I do not think what he did back then was foolish. And if I were in his shoes I'll do it all over again.
Political-correctness only has a place in the Parliament and in newspapers. Not in our everyday lives, and certainly not in my blog.
Not that the newspapers practise polical-correctness either. We still see the races of criminals published eventhough it's of no relevance to the news. Do we really need to know if a snatch thief is Chinese, Indian or Malay?
"Buddhism is technically not a religion."
"he is by the way, not a god."
I'm not even gonna say anything about that comment, which btw is not even politically-correct either. Suffice to say you've just offended a lot of Buddhists.
What? The Buddha Bar embraces the philosphy of Buddhism? If Buddhism entails serving copious amount of alcohol, we're gonna have helluva lot of Buddhists in Ireland. ;)
Posted by: kennysia at 22 December 2005 2:20 AM | Link to comment
Arrogant Americans and their pro-christian bias. lol.
Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 22 December 2005 2:34 AM | Link to comment
you are twisting my words, kenny. do note that i said in this country, you get into trouble by doing even the right thing. i'm disturbed that you find that being sent to jail for alleged "crime" seems to be a heroic act that ought to be emulated again, by who else but our kenny. it's a lesson to be learnt and not to be repeated. and when i mean learn, is learn to fight wisely not charges head on like a blind clumsy bull.
i (and many people, i'm sure) don't condone the racially and politically and religiously sensitive reporting by our mass media either, so there...you have proven my point of just why your post is so tasteless.
what i stated about Buddhism are basic facts and facts that are well aware by Buddhists alike (even the most un-bhuddist Buddhists like myself), there is nothing disparaging about what I said.
on buddha bar, well, you alleged that you encourage tolerance and respect, but i hardly see you doing so from this post. do you know that hitler twisted the teaching of buddhism for his cause? well, that is also a fact, fyi.
Posted by: kimberlycun at 22 December 2005 2:47 AM | Link to comment
Kimberly, you should just shut the fuck up and quit yapping.
Nobody likes you, and nobody really listens to you because everyone knows you specialise in inciting hate - exactly what you do when you need a bout of attention.
Attention that, as a blogger, you can never get via positive blogging.
Your arguments are ridiculously flawed to the point where a retort will just be too cumbersome as the WHOLE argument is so wrong.
I give you an example:
Cun: Kenny, your blog is blue. Fact: Blue is the favourite colour of 84% of Americans. This means you are pandering to Americans and do not care about Malaysians. You are therefore a traitor.
Now you being you, will possibly think that above paragraph sounds very clever, because it contains a real statistic and also written in good English.
The rest of us are just laughing at you while going "HUH? What the hell is she talking about?!".
Buddhism not technically a religion so let's poke fun at it, shall we?
Merry Christmas Kenny, cheers to having retarded people read your blog. Minishorts and I welcome you on board - no need to be nice to vomit-gurglers like her.
No, really. Have underbite boy go do some exploring on your pulsating genitals, and you both should scoot off, weird rashes, STDs and all.
(Eww, what was THAT, BTW?!)
Posted by: Xiaxue at 22 December 2005 3:31 AM | Link to comment
seriously i think the people [edited by KS] here are nitpicking.
one allah plant pic and they jump up and down.
lol they shld migrate to iran
Posted by: I'm A Chicken With No Name. BWAK BWAK BWAK! at 22 December 2005 3:39 AM | Link to comment
Oh yeah, I've always wanted to ask you this... If ugly people are narcissistic, does it
